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Privatize ATC (and most everything else)

Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:10 pm
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9031 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:10 pm
Makes no sense to have the country’s air traffic held hostage by lawmakers in Washington every few years.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
16569 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:11 pm to
How about getting new lawmakers?
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 6:12 pm
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
25962 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:14 pm to
How about airlines paying for their controllers, terminals, and everything else associated with air travel .
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
70936 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

How about getting new lawmakers?

Seconded.

As long as it is a 100% clean sweep.
Posted by DB_tiger
BTR
Member since May 2025
225 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:38 pm to
Can’t wait till Blackrock owns that too.

Moron
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24162 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

Can’t wait till Blackrock owns that too.

Moron


I wouldn't go throwing stones there, homeboy.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24839 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:51 pm to
Reagan brought in military air traffic controllers when he broke the union.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39069 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:00 pm to
Controller's are a Federal function. Airlines pay out of the arse for terminals, really out of the arse for gate leases and ramp space, not to mention landing and takeoff spots. Multiply that by the number of airport's served plus fee's and taxes

You privatize ATC and the ability of Joe Blow to afford a seat exponentially rises.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39069 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:00 pm to
Controller's are a Federal function. Airlines pay out of the arse for terminals, really out of the arse for gate leases and ramp space, not to mention landing and takeoff spots. Multiply that by the number of airport's served plus fee's and taxes

You privatize ATC and the ability of Joe Blow to afford a seat exponentially rises.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39069 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:00 pm to
Controller's are a Federal function. Airlines pay out of the arse for terminals, really out of the arse for gate leases and ramp space, not to mention landing and takeoff spots. Multiply that by the number of airport's served plus fee's and taxes

You privatize ATC and the ability of Joe Blow to afford a seat exponentially rises.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39069 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:00 pm to
Controller's are a Federal function. Airlines pay out of the arse for terminals, really out of the arse for gate leases and ramp space, not to mention landing and takeoff spots. Multiply that by the number of airport's served plus fee's and taxes

You privatize ATC and the ability of Joe Blow to afford a seat exponentially rises.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39069 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:01 pm to
Controller's are a Federal function. Airlines pay out of the arse for terminals, really out of the arse for gate leases and ramp space, not to mention landing and takeoff spots. Multiply that by the number of airport's served plus fee's and taxes

You privatize ATC and the ability of Joe Blow to afford a seat exponentially rises.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39069 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:03 pm to
Sorry for ruining this thread. I got hit with the quality post check
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24162 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:05 pm to
Cot damn, boy.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
24413 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

Makes no sense to have the country’s air traffic held hostage by lawmakers in Washington every few years.


This could be a hard sell to the ATC crowd. They get nice checks (6 digit mid career) and pensions right now. Their pension after 25 years can be $50,000 to $70,000 for life.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39069 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

Cot damn, boy.

Tell me about it
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24162 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:11 pm to
Posted by ATCTx
Member since Nov 2016
1347 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:15 pm to
Putting the airlines in charge of the ATC system would be like putting Pfizer and other drug companies in charge of the Food and Drug Administration.

You cannot have profit margins and stockholders' interests paramount in a safety-first endeavor.

The government has done a terrible job managing new equipment, staffing levels, etc., but if they were also trying to make a lot of money, it would be even worse.

Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24162 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

You cannot have profit margins and stockholders' interests paramount in a safety-first endeavor.


Good point.

quote:

ATCTx


Must recuse.
Posted by m57
Flyover Country
Member since May 2017
2487 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:21 pm to
FAA ATCS here. As was said earlier the gov't pension is probably the last remaining good perk of the job. Pay has constantly lagged behind inflation and the union has blown several opportunities to advance pay/benefits since 2020. We are still under the same contract from 2016 and will be till 2029.

They just need to pass legislation that pays us through government shutdowns. Between the 6 day weeks, mandatory OT, staffing issues (all because several administrations have failed to staff properly) not knowing when a paycheck is coming is brutal. I know I'll get told "you'll just get backpay when its over" but bills don't stop coming. The crap that Trump came out with yesterday blasting the work force was a giant middle finger to all of us who have become nothing but pawns to both parties.

There would probably be a few perks to privitization but way more negatives. NATCA actually supported a proposal that would have privatized us a few years back but got shot down.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 7:23 pm
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