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The problem with the filibuster

Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:03 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99771 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:03 pm
Its intent was to force bipartisanship and to prevent growth of govt/too many laws.

This is a good thing. Except that we already have too big of a government and are running massive deficits and our entire nation is on the brink of a fiscal crisis. And it cannot be fixed due to filibuster. It is impossible to get 60 votes in favor of any legislation that would even begin to fix or reverse this mess. We are doing more harm by maintaining status quo than being able to pass meaningful legislation to attempt to reverse course.

And the idea that a minority party can obstruct legislation indefinitely through filibuster without actual debate on the floor is redundant and not the intent of filibuster originally. You might as well change the constitution requiring 60 votes to pass legislation. Cloture vote is to simply end debate. To do that, there needs to be debate. Make a filibuster require 60 votes in cloture but go back to requiring actual debate. If democrats are willing to speak on the floor and force Congress to remain in session for days then by all means go ahead. Won’t take long to get 60 votes to stop that bullshite
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
16874 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:39 pm to
If the filibuster still required non stop talking we wouldn’t be having this issue
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99771 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:24 pm to
It was never intended to prevent legislation passing. It’s to give the minority party a voice and encourage debate particularly in close/contested legislation. A last chance effort to swing votes to your side to prevent passage

It was not intended to prevent passage altogether by simply saying you’re filibustering while you go on vacation.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2021 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:35 pm to
I feel like Republicans will not use the nuclear option because of optics and democrats will absolutely use it if they get a chance because they do not care about optics. Look who just won elections. Mamdani and Jay Jones. Do you think democrats care about optics. I was on the fence about using the nuclear option but now I am all for it. We have 4 years to shove through what we can and there is a lot that needs to be done and a lot of people brought to justice. Just go ahead and do it and get to work.
Posted by Amblin
Member since Sep 2011
2997 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 2:40 pm to
If roles were reversed, Dems would have already gotten rid of it, screw what happens in the future they would say. Reb are so weak to action...
Posted by tgdawg68
Georgia
Member since Dec 2019
750 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

If roles were reversed


The roles were reversed just over a year ago.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24183 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 2:52 pm to
No chance Paul, Murkowski, Collins, McConnell, and probably Cassidy vote for the nuclear option.
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
26084 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 2:55 pm to
The whole system is broken. It has been co-opted to steal money from the American taxpayer under the guise of “representation.”
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
79574 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 2:56 pm to

Exactly.

Have a physical debate.

This virtual debate is B.S.


Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7792 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

If the filibuster still required non stop talking we wouldn’t be having this issue


That is the interesting point in all of this

Nobody is getting rid of the filibuster all they are getting rid of is a lazy greedy SOB that don't want to do work and get paid and get rich
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