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I knew the results of this TX Proposition would piss me off...
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:25 pm
Proposition 15
“The constitutional amendment affirming that parents are the primary decision makers for their children.”
FOR: 2,065,714
AGAINST: 890,983
I’m open to hearing reasonable and logical explanations for voting against, but they would need to be extremely compelling to change my mind. My wife and I became first time parents this year, and I simply cannot imagine anyone dictating decisions about our kid without our knowledge or consent. It truly baffles me how nearly a million people could feel otherwise.
I understand that not all parents are equally capable or fortunate, and that there are complex situations that require outside involvement. However, we already have systems in place such as CPS for cases where third-party or legal intervention is necessary.
I’m also curious how many of those 890,983 votes came from individuals who either don’t have children or had horrible relationships with their parents.
Again, I’m willing to listen to opposing views, as long as they don’t fall under circumstances that would already justify legal or protective action through established services like CPS.
“The constitutional amendment affirming that parents are the primary decision makers for their children.”
FOR: 2,065,714
AGAINST: 890,983
I’m open to hearing reasonable and logical explanations for voting against, but they would need to be extremely compelling to change my mind. My wife and I became first time parents this year, and I simply cannot imagine anyone dictating decisions about our kid without our knowledge or consent. It truly baffles me how nearly a million people could feel otherwise.
I understand that not all parents are equally capable or fortunate, and that there are complex situations that require outside involvement. However, we already have systems in place such as CPS for cases where third-party or legal intervention is necessary.
I’m also curious how many of those 890,983 votes came from individuals who either don’t have children or had horrible relationships with their parents.
Again, I’m willing to listen to opposing views, as long as they don’t fall under circumstances that would already justify legal or protective action through established services like CPS.
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:28 pm to Snoopy04
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I’m open to hearing reasonable and logical explanations for voting agains
Drug addicts is the only thing i could possibly think of. But i feel like the state would step in given that situation. Stupid to vote against that.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:29 pm to Snoopy04
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890,983
Does it really surprise you that in these times in a state as large as Texas, this amount of votes can be mustered up against any reasonable amendment?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:29 pm to Snoopy04
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AGAINST: 890,983
Childless miserable cat ladies. And welfare queens who don't want to have to be responsible for their offspring
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:32 pm to Snoopy04
As a Texas voter who voted on this prop, I can tell you the verbiage is jacked up and leads to much confusion. While I was casting my vote, I heard 3 separate people ask the poll workers to translate it 
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:33 pm to Snoopy04
Thank God for Abbot and SB12. One of my kid's teacher's gave her a form that asked for her "Preferred Name" and a "Yes / No" question on if the teacher can share their preferred name with their parents. I was beyond disturbed when I found out about it. SB12 had just passed so I let the principal know and he put an end to it. It's scary to think that teachers believe they have some authority to advise their students to keep secrets from their parents. Sounds oddly similar to clergy and other adults who abuse children and tell them not to share these things with their parents.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:34 pm to Snoopy04
I don’t have a compelling reason but I have read that many view this as an anti-trans bill. In other words if a minor wants surgery they should be able to go outside of the family structure to obtain hormones and surgery without parental consent.
Or people can’t read and didn’t do their homework ahead of time. For example,
Many props were related to Ad Valorem codification. I looked around me at the polling place last night and would bet a solid 70% there didn’t know what that means and voted anyways
Or people can’t read and didn’t do their homework ahead of time. For example,
Many props were related to Ad Valorem codification. I looked around me at the polling place last night and would bet a solid 70% there didn’t know what that means and voted anyways
Posted on 11/5/25 at 1:59 pm to BigGreenTiger
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Drug addicts is the only thing i could possibly think of.
I voted against it exactly for this reason
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feel like the state would step in given that situation.
Not if it’s written in the constitution that they can’t.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 3:20 pm to Pvt Hudson
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Drug addicts is the only thing i could possibly think of.
I voted against it exactly for this reason
For the sake of debate, my rebuttal would be that CPS stepping in at that point is exactly what should happen. That’s the system working as intended. The addict’s family should step up and handle their business too.
Why should one drug addict’s situation dictate your blanket opinion that all parents shouldn’t be the primary decision makers? This proposition isn’t about one extreme case. You’re letting the bottom of the barrel example shape your whole view without thinking about the ripple effects for normal, capable parents.
If you’ve got kids, you’re stable, and you’re a functioning adult in society why the frick would you ever be okay with someone else having the power to override any decision about your kid?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 3:22 pm to Snoopy04
There is a huge conservative opposition to this for some reason. They say the bill is worded in a way that will take rights away from parents somehow.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 3:29 pm to Snoopy04
quote:
FOR: 2,065,714
AGAINST: 890,983
It was soundly passed, I would not get worked up.
Most of the against were probably childless people. In a way I understand why they would vote that way - you do not know, what you do not know. Having children changes your life views in many ways.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 3:30 pm to justaniceguy
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for some reason
For some reason? What the hell do you mean for some reason? You say that if parents are irrational for thinking they should be the sole decision makers for the child(ren) they procreated!
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The amendment added language to the state constitution to provide that parents have the right "to exercise care, custody, and control of the parent’s child, including the right to make decisions concerning the child’s upbringing" and the responsibility "to nurture and protect the parent's child."[3]
At the time of the election, Texas was one of 26 states that had a Parents’ Bill of Rights in state law. The law provided that parents have the right to access their child's student records, copies of state assessments, and teaching materials, among other provisions.[4]
Voting against the bold text that was amended and added to the state constitution is WILD to me!
Posted on 11/5/25 at 3:32 pm to DarthRebel
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It was soundly passed, I would not get worked up.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 3:32 pm to BigGreenTiger
Supporters
Officials
State Sen. Bryan Hughes (R)
Political Parties
Libertarian Party of Texas
Organizations
Baptist General Convention of Texas Christian Life Commission
Family Freedom Project
Texans for Fiscal Responsibility
Texans for Vaccine Choice
Texas Eagle Forum
Texas Home School Coalition
Texas Policy Research
Texas Public Policy Foundation
Texas Right to Life PAC
Texas Values
Opponents
Officials
State Sen. Molly Cook (D)
Political Parties
Collin County Democratic Party
Green Party of Texas
Organizations
Accountability Matters
Avow Texas
Jane's Due Process
National Latina Institute for Reproductive Justice
Parents of Trans Youth
Planned Parenthood Texas Votes
Progress Texas
Transgender Education Network of Texas
True Texas Project
Ballotpedia
Officials
State Sen. Bryan Hughes (R)
Political Parties
Libertarian Party of Texas
Organizations
Baptist General Convention of Texas Christian Life Commission
Family Freedom Project
Texans for Fiscal Responsibility
Texans for Vaccine Choice
Texas Eagle Forum
Texas Home School Coalition
Texas Policy Research
Texas Public Policy Foundation
Texas Right to Life PAC
Texas Values
Opponents
Officials
State Sen. Molly Cook (D)
Political Parties
Collin County Democratic Party
Green Party of Texas
Organizations
Accountability Matters
Avow Texas
Jane's Due Process
National Latina Institute for Reproductive Justice
Parents of Trans Youth
Planned Parenthood Texas Votes
Progress Texas
Transgender Education Network of Texas
True Texas Project
Ballotpedia
Posted on 11/5/25 at 3:37 pm to Snoopy04
quote:You do realize that the summaries printed on the ballot are written by the people who want the proposition to pass, right? Of course it will sound reasonable.
The constitutional amendment affirming that parents are the primary decision makers for their children
Posted on 11/5/25 at 3:38 pm to Snoopy04
White lib women?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 3:44 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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You do realize that the summaries printed on the ballot are written by the people who want the proposition to pass, right? Of course it will sound reasonable.
Huh? As long as the summaries state the purpose of the proposition is, what do I care about WHO wrote the summaries and whether or not they want the proposition to pass. And in response to you saying of course the proposition sounds reasonable....well about 900K people think it isn't reasonable so I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 3:44 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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You do realize that the summaries printed on the ballot are written by the people who want the proposition to pass, right? Of course it will sound reasonable.
What makes it really seem reasonable is seeing who is opposed to it.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 3:48 pm to Snoopy04
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Again, I’m willing to listen to opposing views, as long as they don’t fall under circumstances that would already justify legal or protective action through established services like CPS.
A constitutional amendment may make this more difficult if not impossible.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 4:21 pm to Snoopy04
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If you’ve got kids, you’re stable, and you’re a functioning adult in society why the frick would you ever be okay with someone else having the power to override any decision about your kid?
I have all that and no one is coming to take my kids. This is a fear-mongering, govern me harder daddy amendment to the constitution.
It will have unintended consequences.
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