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Tariffs are Taxes and Increase Prices for Consumers

Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:40 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:40 am
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Eight months into President Trump’s latest trade war, it’s worth examining how tariffs are affecting consumers. So far, the evidence shows that tariffs have raised overall retail prices by about 4.9 percentage points relative to the pre-tariff trend—a number that, while modest compared to some of the tariff rate increases, we should expect to rise even more over the coming months if the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) tariffs are upheld by the Supreme Court.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:41 am to
Ok you can keep crying about it
Posted by W2NOMO
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:41 am to
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Tariffs are Taxes and Increase Prices for Consumers
so this is why other countries levy them against the USA.
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:42 am to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:42 am to
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Tariffs are Taxes


Duh.

Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:42 am to
I was promised the great depression.


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There is, however, an indirect way in which tariffs can also raise prices for consumers that will also likely be smaller than the tariff increase: firms and consumers may switch to domestically available substitutes.


The point. This isn't a bad thing.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 9:46 am
Posted by wallowinit
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:43 am to
That’s a small price to pay to keep the rest of the world from leaching off of me.

Wouldn’t have to be like that if previous administrations had properly taken care of business.

But it takes a real businessman to get in there and get it done for the American people.
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:43 am to
Yet income taxes are way down. I’ll take that trade any day.
Posted by Codythetiger
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:43 am to
I asked the one liberal in here a few weeks ago why it was okay for every country to have tarrifs against the US but the US can't have any tarrifs on any other country.

He was just shrugged his shoulders and said the other countries shouldn't tarrif us either lol

Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:45 am to
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That’s a small price to pay to keep the rest of the world from leaching off of me.

How do tariffs of all things achieve that goal?
Posted by KingOrange
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:46 am to
We used to run the Country with only Tariffs.
Posted by FLTech
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:47 am to
They have said since day one that 2025 was going to be an up/down year. They have all said that we would have some good days and bad days in 2025. They have all said this since day one.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:48 am to
Also looks like apparel has seen the largest increase.


I'll be honest, I just buy Hanes solid polos. Cheap as frick. Don't need overpriced brands made in sweat shops. Just get the cheap brands made in sweat shops.





Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:49 am to
I'm also a cheap arse when it comes to clothing...
Posted by Swamp Angel
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:50 am to
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Tariffs are Taxes and Increase Prices for Consumers


Yes, they do. You are absolutely correct. But what you fail to realize is that they are there to make products of foreign origin the same price, or slightly higher than similar domestically produced goods in order to counteract unfair practices (i.e. slave labor/extremely low wages) used by other nations (primarily China) so that our country's workers can compete without having to live in squalor.

I have no problem with this use of protective tariffs.

I might take issue with tariffs enacted on goods and products that can not be produced domestically though, but that is another issue entirely.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:50 am to
At the outset of WWII, America had 4 air craft carriers in the Pacific and the Japanese had 11. America had 27 on order and ended the war with over 60.

We used to have industrial capacity that was unrivaled. Some years back Florida's hurricane damage repair was delayed because of a shortage of sheet rock screws because it was taking weeks to get more from China.

I noticed in recent visits to Korea, Japan and China that there were virtually no empty store fronts or factories. Our manufacturing has often been abandoned.
Posted by alphaandomega
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:53 am to
If a tariff makes imported goods more expensive, maybe someone in the US will start making that product.

We need more manufacturing here, even if it is more expensive. The added cost is money that stays in our economy instead of helping some third world shithole.

Especially for things that we really need. Steel, microchips, antibiotics, etc.

I really try to buy things that are made here but some things are just impossible to do. Hopefully that changes, and if tariffs cause that I am ok with it.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:54 am to
So we can pay this way where we have some discretion on whether or not to buy or not buy certain things, or we can pay by higher income taxes that are not avoidable at all.

I'll take the tariffs, it's more in line with a sales tax and no one is forcing me to buy anything.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:55 am to
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so this is why other countries levy them against the USA.


To keep US goods out of their economy. When our goods are higher in the international market, a tariff does affect the consumer because they weren’t likely going to buy the higher priced goods anyway. In our case, we are getting cheaper goods abroad so when the tariffs raise the prices domestically we still pay for them because they are cheaper than the US made item.

Tariffs don’t have the same outcome in the US vs internationally.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:55 am to
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I have no problem with this use of protective tariffs.



Internally the tariff push is coming from the Department of War. They are worried about the domestic steel, aluminum and copper industries going bankrupt. They do not want to rely on China for material to make ships, tanks, planes and munitions as we have to potentially fight China in a war, directly or by proxy. The tariff issue is mostly a national security play. It is not a government revenue play albeit that's the sales pitch.
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