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Opinion - the next coaching hire is going to be a crapshoot no matter what.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 10/27/25 at 1:53 pm
With changes to the portal, NIL, and conference realignment the game has changed significantly in just a few years. And I, for one, am not convinced that the big names being thrown around as potential hires are as good as we think they are in this new reality.
For example: I've been in IT for over 40 years. For most of that time, it's been a solid career field and a CS degree would more likely than not net you a good job. But in just the last few years the entire IT world has changed. Now with AI, "vibe coding", and a host of relatively recent changes the IT world has been flipped on its head. Kids who put 4 years into a CS degree can't find a job now (screw any political diatribes, that's just fact based on the industry trends). People who were absolute stud IT knowledge workers are now getting "retired" in favor of kids who don't know how to code or configure a network, but they ARE good at asking ChatGPT how to do it.
Do I like it? Hell no, but I'm also not going to deny reality.
Same perspective is needed here. We need to look beyond the big names being thrown around and find someone who has a solid grasp of the modern game. Is that someone like Kiffen? Maybe, maybe not. But I for one think we need to get past the "we need a proven HC to hire" because that proof may be outdated in the modern CFB landscape. Criteria to select a new coach needs to account for CFB as it is, not as it was.
Just my opinion, folks. But at this point we all deserve better than going back to the same well for another mug of the shite we've been drinking for six years.
For example: I've been in IT for over 40 years. For most of that time, it's been a solid career field and a CS degree would more likely than not net you a good job. But in just the last few years the entire IT world has changed. Now with AI, "vibe coding", and a host of relatively recent changes the IT world has been flipped on its head. Kids who put 4 years into a CS degree can't find a job now (screw any political diatribes, that's just fact based on the industry trends). People who were absolute stud IT knowledge workers are now getting "retired" in favor of kids who don't know how to code or configure a network, but they ARE good at asking ChatGPT how to do it.
Do I like it? Hell no, but I'm also not going to deny reality.
Same perspective is needed here. We need to look beyond the big names being thrown around and find someone who has a solid grasp of the modern game. Is that someone like Kiffen? Maybe, maybe not. But I for one think we need to get past the "we need a proven HC to hire" because that proof may be outdated in the modern CFB landscape. Criteria to select a new coach needs to account for CFB as it is, not as it was.
Just my opinion, folks. But at this point we all deserve better than going back to the same well for another mug of the shite we've been drinking for six years.
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 1:56 pm to Dotarian
Pretty much
Posted on 10/27/25 at 1:58 pm to Dotarian
Your thread title stinks and is a bit too negative but your analysis is true. We need to hire someone that is capable of managing LSU in this new era.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 1:59 pm to Dotarian
every coaching hire is a crapshoot
in 2019 we won big with a mascot as head coach, a poached analyst from the saints, a retiree OC, professional DC, and Louisiana talent complemented by an outrageously talented transfer QB.
Talent is talent and quality is really all that matters. Get it wherever it is.
in 2019 we won big with a mascot as head coach, a poached analyst from the saints, a retiree OC, professional DC, and Louisiana talent complemented by an outrageously talented transfer QB.
Talent is talent and quality is really all that matters. Get it wherever it is.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:01 pm to burreauxsballz
quote:If I sound negative it's because I'm not sure the LSU decision-makers will look at modern reality when making the next hire, and will instead reach for another "known-good" (IT term) coach that may or may not be suited for today's game.
Your thread title stinks and is a bit too negative but your analysis is true. We need to hire someone that is capable of managing LSU in this new era.
As for my title stinking, it's pretty accurate from where I sit, so
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:05 pm to Dotarian
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With changes to the portal, NIL, and conference realignment the game has changed significantly in just a few years.
On the surface, it appears so, but in reality, the same 10 teams are so end up with the talent and at the end are the ones standing.
It has narrowed the gap some and thus you get closer games and probably more upsets. But, the depth of the best teams with the best coaches will rise to the top and hoist the trophy.
There are a handful of coaches that have shown they can win at today's game and often with less talent than the big dogs. Although, at their present schools, they won't win the championship because of depth.
Those guys should be the ones we consider first as the LSU talent is always Top 10.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:09 pm to white beans
quote:I completely agree, but I also believe that old proverb about luck occurring when preparation meets opportunity.
every coaching hire is a crapshoot
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Talent is talent and quality is really all that matters. Get it wherever it is.
2019 may be the outlier, but in general it applies. Lack of preparation is what we got when Kelly squandered the 2023 and, possibly, 2025 teams with CFP talent. Talent alone doesn't cut the mustard any more unless you catch lightning in a bottle.
I'd rather we control the things that we CAN control - like hiring a coach capable of building a successful team in the modern CFB environment. That gives us a better than middling chance at success even with "meh" rosters - and engages the warp drive when we have a top-flight roster.
So, not sure where you were going, but I'd rather not lay back on that old saw of "LSU recruits itself" and depend on talent to get us through dumbshit coaching. That may have worked even as recently as 2019, but today even middling schools can buy good players in the portal.
Cheers, mate, just how I feel right now.
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:20 pm to Dotarian
The most insane part of all this is all the people in our fanbase who want yet another "proven coach" who is obviously past their prime, like Gruden or Urban Meyer. Either one of those hires would probably play out like Belichick did for UNC.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:58 pm to OlDirtyTiger7
quote:Agreed.
The most insane part of all this is all the people in our fanbase who want yet another "proven coach" who is obviously past their prime, like Gruden or Urban Meyer. Either one of those hires would probably play out like Belichick did for UNC.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:07 pm to Dotarian
The best coach is the one who can put together the best roster, the rest makes marginal difference.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:14 pm to Batiger53
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The best coach is the one who can put together the best roster, the rest makes marginal difference.
Umm……assistants (cough, cough)
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:16 pm to Dotarian
All coaching searches are a crapshoot. It was a crapshoot when LSU hired Saban from Michigan State. He had an identical record as DiNardo although LSU was on a downward trend and MSU was on the upswing. LSU took a chance on a young upcoming coach who was the hot candidate at the time and it worked out brilliantly. You can't predict how a coach will work at LSU or anywhere else.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:25 pm to Batiger53
quote:I disagree.
The best coach is the one who can put together the best roster, the rest makes marginal difference.
Exhibit 1: Jimbo's #1 recruiting class. Max talent that feel apart because of bad coaching and poor team management.
Exhibit 2: 2023 and 2025 LSU. Talent galore that should have gotten them into the playoffs, only to fall apart because of crappy coordinators and BK's refusal to make needed changes.
Exhibit 3: any number of teams like Vandy, IU and GT with coaches that get less talented teams to over perform through excellent coaching.
In today's CFB where everyone can hire good players, coaching is more important than ever. And IMO simply relying on "LSU recruits itself" is dead in the age of NIL and a recipe for failure.
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 3:27 pm
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