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Nvidia CEO says using the term "China Hawk" is a badge of shame, it's unpatriotic.

Posted on 10/12/25 at 4:46 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 4:46 pm
From Google AI.....

AI Overview
Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang recently called the term "China hawk" a "badge of shame". He accused those who use the label of "destroying" opportunities and acting in a way that is "not patriotic," arguing that U.S. export restrictions against China are harming America's own innovation and economic interests.

Key points from Huang's comments.

Focus on U.S. competitiveness: Huang has repeatedly argued that by restricting sales to China, the U.S. government is isolating American technology and allowing Chinese competitors to gain ground. He stated that if the U.S. does not participate in the Chinese market, Chinese companies like Huawei will fill the void.

China's rapid progress: In an interview on the BG2 podcast, Huang warned that China's AI chip technology is only "nanoseconds behind" the U.S. and that its progress is fueled by its massive talent pool and intense work culture.


Impact of U.S. restrictions: Huang has called U.S. chip export controls a "failure," stating that the policies have cut Nvidia's market share in China's AI chip market from 95% to 50%. In his view, these restrictions have motivated Beijing to accelerate its own domestic chip development.

Commercial vs. political concerns: Huang has tried to separate commercial activity from geopolitical tensions. In 2025, after U.S. restrictions on an Nvidia chip model known as the H20 were lifted, he emphasized that allowing sales for "beneficial commercial use" is good for everyone.


Long-term strategic risk: Huang’s stance reflects broader industry concerns that, in the long run, U.S. sanctions could damage the American tech industry by forcing China to become technologically self-sufficient.


What is a "China hawk"?


A "China hawk" is a political term for an individual who holds a hardline, aggressive stance toward the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and advocates for policies to contain or confront China. In the context of technology and trade, this typically refers to policymakers who support strict export controls and other measures to limit China's access to advanced technologies like AI chips.



I wear the China Hawk label as a badge of honor, not as a badge of shame. But then again I'm America First/MAGA.

I watched the US Corporatocracy over the past 40 years sell the American people out to foreign interests that have made many of these corporatists fabulously wealthy.

Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 4:48 pm to
China Hawk > China dick.
Posted by BoomerandSooner
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 4:58 pm to
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China Hawk > China dick.


Did someone say China dick?

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:01 pm to


This ^^^^ is the prototypical leftist/progressive male.

Crazy stuff.
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:01 pm to
Huang. Funny he would say that. His parents, who were of Chinese descent. Don't trust. Don't care if he is technically from Taiwan.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:04 pm to
That a-hole is worried about his bottom line, not the future of our country.

Staying ahead of China in AI is the #1 security threat to this country. China is all about taking us down,.end of story. Why help them?.Make them do it on their own.

We should be going after China on AI with a Manhattan Project attitude.

Chinese AI is infinitely more a concern that imaginary nukes in Iran.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:07 pm to
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Staying ahead of China in AI is the #1 security threat to this country.

I used to think this and have concluded I was terribly wrong
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:09 pm to
AI has been tremendously oversold and overhyped. The bubble is bursting.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:10 pm to
Ironically it's the only thing towing this shite economy along
Posted by rocksteady
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:11 pm to
I used to think this and have concluded I was terribly wrong

That should be occurring numerous times a day for you, but unfortunately….. you’re still a giant retarded loser
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:11 pm to
Because of idiots.
Posted by 21blackjack
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:14 pm to
Who is he implying said “china hawk”?
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:15 pm to
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AI has been tremendously oversold and overhyped. The bubble is bursting.


Posted by 21blackjack
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:16 pm to
China is arsehole.

Ask every other nation surrounding them.
This post was edited on 10/12/25 at 5:17 pm
Posted by BoomerandSooner
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:19 pm to
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AI has been tremendously oversold and overhyped. The bubble is bursting.


Based on what metric exactly?

A few stats. Click on the pdf inside the link for even more stats that say otherwise.

https://hai.stanford.edu/ai-index/2025-ai-index-report

Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:20 pm to
For as amazingly wrong as she is about just about everything, that may have been her wrongest statement yet. Truly jarring ignorance masquerading as informed opinion. It's getting old.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:22 pm to
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Based on what metric exactly?

The fact that these mega corps still haven't figured out the best way to monetize their products.

Only 1 percent of chatGPT users are using the paid subscription model. Everyone else is using the free version.

Huge investments are being made because these tech companies like NVIDIA have massive cash reserves and are funding demand for their own products with their investments.

Maybe they get some things figured out but right now they are still in limbo.
Posted by BoomerandSooner
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:25 pm to
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For as amazingly wrong as she is about just about everything, that may have been her wrongest statement yet. Truly jarring ignorance masquerading as informed opinion. It's getting old.


It is a pretty mind blowingly stupid take. I only see her posts here on the politics board. I can only imagine her hot takes on the other boards and in real life.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:25 pm to
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Nvidia's operations in China

Although Nvidia does not have factories in the country, it has a significant business presence in China:

Local offices: The company maintains a number of offices for sales, marketing, and local operations in cities like Beijing, Guangzhou, and Shanghai.

Customer base and partners: Nvidia has numerous customers and partners in China, including large tech companies like Alibaba, Tencent, and Baidu.

Adjusting to trade restrictions: Due to U.S. export controls that restrict the sale of its most powerful AI chips to China, Nvidia developed specialized, less-powerful processors like the H20 to sell in the Chinese market

. Recent reports indicate escalating trade tensions and new restrictions imposed by the Chinese government affecting Nvidia's access to the market.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58481 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:26 pm to
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Based on what metric exactly?


Free AI is being shoved down everyone’s throats, highlighting its limitations and inaccuracies.

Your pdf affirms my whole argument.
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