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Is Brad Davis really that good a recruiter?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:12 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:12 am
Since NIL and transfer portal I don’t follow recruiting like I used to.
But many have said Davis was kept on for his recruiting.
He clearly terrible as an O line coaching. What has done recruiting wise that make people say he’s good?
But many have said Davis was kept on for his recruiting.
He clearly terrible as an O line coaching. What has done recruiting wise that make people say he’s good?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:14 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
Benjamin Franklin is the only recruiter that matters.
Programs need to focus on the best coaches going forward.
Programs need to focus on the best coaches going forward.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 8:15 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:17 am to Wee Ice Mon
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Benjamin Franklin
I don't see a Benjamin Franklin on staff?
what am I missing?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:20 am to herecomethetigers02
quote:Derp
I don't see a Benjamin Franklin on staff?
what am I missing?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:23 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
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What has done recruiting wise that make people say he’s good?
We don't get recruits simply because we outbid everyone else. We don't have the NIL funds to outspend everyone. Relationships and recruiting still matter. On site visits still happen. Recruiting trips still happen.
Hes a very good recruiter. Look at the talent that has come in under his watch - it speaks for itself.
Now whether or not he can coach worth a flip....
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:23 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
quote:It's a good question and one I've been asking myself. He's consistently landed highly rated recruits, I don't think that is even debatable, but there is a clear disconnect between the ratings of the recruits and their subsequent performance on the field.
Is Brad Davis really that good a recruiter?
So one (or more) of these has to be true:
1. The recruiting services are consistently whiffing on evaluating these players.
2. Davis is a terrible judge of talent.
3. These recruits are good prospects, but they're not being developed, i.e. Davis is not a good coach.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 8:27 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:27 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
When Kelly accepted the job, Davis was the guy that "held the recruiting class together" - or so we were led to believe. He was the interim coach in that bowl game and was the primary recruiter for Campbell and Jones and those two OL were the cornerstones of that first recruiting class under Kelly. That seems like the main reason that he was the only one retained. We already know that mistakes were made in not retaining others but I didn't believe at the time that retaining Davis was also a mistake. I feel differently now.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:32 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
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What has done recruiting wise that make people say he’s good?
Prob that he has landed highly regarded players over and over.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:35 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
I mean, yeah, he helped sign Will Campbell, Emery Jones, Lance Heard(now at Tenn) & for the most recent class he just signed the #1 OL in AR, #1 OL in MS, & the #2 OL in the country Solomon Thomas - (with the help of Alex Atkins).
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 8:38 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:40 am to jcole4lsu
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We don't get recruits simply because we outbid everyone else. We don't have the NIL funds to outspend everyone. Relationships and recruiting still matter. On site visits still happen. Recruiting trips still happen.
It’s possible, but I doubt that we outbid A&M for Coen Echols
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:41 am to coolpapaboze
makes sense... I don't use cash baw
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:47 am to coolpapaboze
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So one (or more) of these has to be true:
3. The recruiting services are evaluating players ..they are not perfect.
2. Davis is a bad judge of talent.
1. These recruits are good prospects, but they're not being developed, i.e. Davis is not a good coach
FIFY
You inadvertently had them in reverse order of team impact.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:48 am to herecomethetigers02
It does seem that we have consistently signed highly rated OL recruits with Davis here - going back to the last couple of years of O being the head coach. Now - how those ratings compare to the actual performance on the field of some of those recruits - there is definitely a gap there. Is that poor ratings? or is it poor evaluations? or poor coaching once they are here? Not sure, but there is some disconnect.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:57 am to coolpapaboze
He’s obviously a poor hahaha
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:01 am to JimTiger72
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country Solomon Thomas - (with the help of Alex Atkins).
He must be extremely raw. He doesn't even dress out.
I'm guessing they paid a pretty penny for Solomon Thomas.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:06 am to Chalkywhite84
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He must be extremely raw. He doesn't even dress out.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:11 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
On paper he is but it has to translate to the field. NIL money does most of the recruiting these days.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:24 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
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He clearly terrible as an O line coaching. What has done recruiting wise that make people say he’s good?
If you go back and look at what we had in the offseason before 2022 and what we have now, there’s no question that the talent level and depth are nowhere close to where they were a few years ago. We’ve pulled in 5 5* OL (Campbell, Heard, Davis, Thomas and Curne) in that time period and retained 4 of them. Retention has also been good across the backups, with only a few leaving to get playing time elsewhere and none besides Heard who were threats to get on the field.
You will always have some 3*s on the OL brought into fill out the roster based on potential, but there have been more 4 stars like Adams, Echols and Chester to fill out the ranks than developmental pieces like a Bo Bordelon under Davis. People complain that he’s not identifying the right guys, but when you have this many 4 and 5* players and multiple draft picks- draw your own conclusion there.
The issue isn’t recruiting. There are schools with less overall talent and depth playing better and more consistently right now. We have 2 experienced portal guys with proven P4 track records and 5* and 4* (who is actually playing close to that level) on this starting OL. We have 2 more 5* freshmen waiting in the wings. There are enough pieces here to build a good or better OL. ALL of the evidence points to this definitely being a coaching and system issue.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:26 am to Wee Ice Mon
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Benjamin Franklin is the only recruiter that matters. Programs need to focus on the best coaches going forward.
Evaluation is still critical because most OL tend to be raw coming out of HS. But you are right that quality coaching should be the focus going forward. And a great technical coach should be a good evaluator, in most cases.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:27 am to Wee Ice Mon
Benjamin Franklin once said that Les Miles’s offense was outdated.
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