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Speaker Johnson's Men's Comments Today
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:16 pm
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I have to bring this up. I listened to a little bit of the press conference from Mike Johnson today. One aspect of it kind of surprised me.
He had a whole segment where he went off on men and "getting to work, stop playing video games". The link is from 5 months ago, but he said it again today. Not only did it not really fit with the whole government shutdown, but talk about sh*tting on the base that got your party in power.
I don't say that because it's not true in any way, but out of all demographics, why go after men? Young men are already blamed for essentially every problem in modern society and told they are horrible. Are we really surprised they then give society the middle finger? It really shows how out of touch both the GOP and Democrats are, that they can't understand why men have all but opted out of society.
It also came off as treating men are disposable cogs in the machine. Almost a "how dare you do what you enjoy, get back to working and being miserable. you exist to serve us and you should be working 24/7" type mentality, very dehumanizing.
It's easy to say "stop playing video games". But when today's women are toxic, for many men what's the point? Without women who are interested in marriage and are truly wife material, men aren't going to marry, they aren't going to have kids and they aren't going to be involved in the community.
To Mike Johnson, I would say this. Defeat feminism, fix the courts being completed biased against men, especially in divorce court, end no-fault divorces and end the "guilty until proven innocent" bias when it comes to sexual harassment. Do these things to start, show men there is a place for them in society, and then they probably start to step up. But until these are done, he's going against the wrong group. It's feminism causing men, especially young men, to give up and say "screw it".
Does anyone else think I'm overreacting to those comments? Does anything else think that Mike Johnson's attack on young men was out of nowhere and really needless?
I have to bring this up. I listened to a little bit of the press conference from Mike Johnson today. One aspect of it kind of surprised me.
He had a whole segment where he went off on men and "getting to work, stop playing video games". The link is from 5 months ago, but he said it again today. Not only did it not really fit with the whole government shutdown, but talk about sh*tting on the base that got your party in power.
I don't say that because it's not true in any way, but out of all demographics, why go after men? Young men are already blamed for essentially every problem in modern society and told they are horrible. Are we really surprised they then give society the middle finger? It really shows how out of touch both the GOP and Democrats are, that they can't understand why men have all but opted out of society.
It also came off as treating men are disposable cogs in the machine. Almost a "how dare you do what you enjoy, get back to working and being miserable. you exist to serve us and you should be working 24/7" type mentality, very dehumanizing.
It's easy to say "stop playing video games". But when today's women are toxic, for many men what's the point? Without women who are interested in marriage and are truly wife material, men aren't going to marry, they aren't going to have kids and they aren't going to be involved in the community.
To Mike Johnson, I would say this. Defeat feminism, fix the courts being completed biased against men, especially in divorce court, end no-fault divorces and end the "guilty until proven innocent" bias when it comes to sexual harassment. Do these things to start, show men there is a place for them in society, and then they probably start to step up. But until these are done, he's going against the wrong group. It's feminism causing men, especially young men, to give up and say "screw it".
Does anyone else think I'm overreacting to those comments? Does anything else think that Mike Johnson's attack on young men was out of nowhere and really needless?
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 11:21 pm
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:29 pm to TigerSharkMan
He’s making the point that able bodied people need to get off government assistance and go to work. Not hard to follow the logic.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:34 pm to graychef
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He’s making the point that able bodied people need to get off government assistance and go to work. Not hard to follow the logic.
Why single out men then? There's far more women who are on government assistance and I didn't hear him call them out. There was no need to try to go after men who play video games, most of whom do actually work. He was going after a very specific subgroup of people just to make a much more general point.
It came off as very "you aren't supposed to have fun, you aren't supposed to enjoy life. you are supposed to work, provide for a woman who doesn't appreciate you (and will probably cheat on you and eventually divorce you) and be miserable". Just a terrible message.
And if it was about able-bodied people getting off government assistance, he made the point in about the worst way possible.
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:35 pm to TigerSharkMan
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Does anyone else think I'm overreacting to those comments?
Everyone does.
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Does anything else think that Mike Johnson's attack on young men was out of nowhere and really needless?
No.
Are you a woman? Is your name Karen? Do you have a grown son that lives with you that plays the vidya games?
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:36 pm to TigerSharkMan
He’s soft himself. Telling men to stop gaming online is out of touch uniparty level fluff.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:37 pm to TigerSharkMan
I gave you an upvote... thoughtful dissection of a "blame boys" problem.
Johnson isn't wrong, but neither are you.
Johnson isn't wrong, but neither are you.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:39 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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He’s soft himself. Telling men to stop gaming online is out of touch uniparty level fluff.
My point exactly. And out of touch comments like this is why Charlie Kirk was so needed. He actually knew how to talk to young men. If the GOP can't see this, and go back to uniparty talking points trashing young men without truly understanding them, then all the gains Kirk made with young men is going to be wasted. They'll become disengaged again and either stop voting or go right back to the Democrats.
It wasn't even about being on government assistance. He seemed to have a personal issue with any man who does any gaming on their own time. Again, just why?
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:46 pm to SallysHuman
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I gave you an upvote... thoughtful dissection of a "blame boys" problem.
Johnson isn't wrong, but neither are you.
And I agree Johnson isn't completely wrong, but the whole comment was misguided. Between family, some distant friends and some former co-workers, I know at least 5. people who are on some form of government assistance.
Guess what, all 5 of those people are women. I don't know a single man on government assistance. I'm sure for most people it's similar. It's well known that women are far more likely to be on government assistance than men, yet he attacks men?
I would tell Mike Johnson this. You really expect men to care about a society who actively hates them and would love to see them die or killed?
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:46 pm to TigerSharkMan
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He seemed to have a personal issue with any man who does any gaming on their own time. Again, just why?
Gaming and young men really is a problem. We aren't talking Donkey Kong, the gaming world is very immersive, time consuming and even addictive by design.
I didn't listen to Johnson's speech... but from parenting experience, if you admonish a behavior, there need be an alternative available. It's easy to say "stop doing ___, it's a waste of time and bad for you"... much harder to give real alternatives.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:49 pm to TigerSharkMan
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It's well known that women are far more likely to be on government assistance than men, yet he attacks men?
*Hopefully* he is expecting men to lead on this issue and not be all Adam-like and abdicate their will to whatever pleases them in the moment.
Maybe he doesn’t feel equipped to admonish women... though they need it in equal doses.
Men are to lead... and lead by example- perhaps that is what he's attempting to speak to.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:50 pm to TigerSharkMan
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Why single out men then? There's far more women who are on government assistance and I didn't hear him call them out.
Because men should be providing for their family and women should be caring for their family. If the man is doing his job, the women are not on government assistance.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:52 pm to SallysHuman
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Gaming and young men really is a problem. We aren't talking Donkey Kong, the gaming world is very immersive, time consuming and even addictive by design.
I didn't listen to Johnson's speech... but from parenting experience, if you admonish a behavior, there need be an alternative available. It's easy to say "stop doing ___, it's a waste of time and bad for you"... much harder to give real alternatives.
I agree about offering alternatives. But he seemed to lump all gamers into being a bunch of losers on government assistance. Just like so many boomers still lump all marijuana users into useless losers. He flat out stereotyped all gamers. And as an older millennial, I absolutely know many men who work hard and support themselves. But yes, in their off time, they will spend at least 4 - 5 hours a night playing video games. It's how they relax, have fun and decompress.
If the person isn't on government assistance and is working full time, who really cares if he spends the majority of his free time playing video games? At least that man is getting enjoyment, which is more than a lot of men can say. I'd rather see a man have a video game addiction than an alcohol or drug addiction, that's for sure.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:54 pm to TigerSharkMan
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why go after men?
Because billions of fricking simps put the pussy on a pedestal, created modern problems, and are making them worse by the minute.
Its why whites will eventually be extict while asian latino and arab races will rule everything. Gender roles.
That being said. The idea you have to work non stop and never have leisurely hobbies is stupid. Gaming is just this generations version of going to the bar/joining a bowling league/working on cars/ whatever else men used to do after work.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:57 pm to ChEgrad
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Because men should be providing for their family and women should be caring for their family. If the man is doing his job, the women are not on government assistance.
First of all, very few women under 40 are marriage material in any way. Most of them are really screwed up.
These women have no intention of giving that average man the time of day. Unless that man is an 8 or above or is crazy rich, they aren't going to give them a chance. We all know that.
Remember, women rank 80% of men as "below average".
And why should men have to make a huge salary just so that a woman can then divorce him in a couple of years and take at least half of it and full custody of any kids?
That's my point. You want men to "step up" or "be a man", yet our society actively discourages that. We intentionally make is hard to "be a man". Start by cleaning up the court system and not screwing men over, and stop blaming men for every single problem, and men will re-engage with women and want to lead and provide again. But as society is currently, there is very little reason for the average man to "be a man".
Posted on 10/7/25 at 12:00 am to TigerSharkMan
Here's where we diverge. 
I don't know why you tossed this out there, but I find it interesting.
Assume 10hrs to work (work plus driving, getting ready, etc), 7 hours to sleep.. that leaves 7 hours in the day. Spending over half that time gaming is problematic to a functioning society.
Single? Well... he's going to stay that way if his free time is et up with Call of Duty.
Married? He's not giving and sharing that time with and building his family.
Any addiction is not conducive to being a functioning member of a family or society. All addiction is detrimental. Who cares? The man's wife and children... or if he has none, that he's likely to never have any.
I have more thoughts on this- but I'm drinking.
Anywho... 4-5hrs a night on video games IS a societal problem if writ large.
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Just like so many boomers still lump all marijuana users into useless losers
I don't know why you tossed this out there, but I find it interesting.
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And as an older millennial, I absolutely know many men who work hard and support themselves. But yes, in their off time, they will spend at least 4 - 5 hours a night playing video games. It's how they relax, have fun and decompress.
Assume 10hrs to work (work plus driving, getting ready, etc), 7 hours to sleep.. that leaves 7 hours in the day. Spending over half that time gaming is problematic to a functioning society.
Single? Well... he's going to stay that way if his free time is et up with Call of Duty.
Married? He's not giving and sharing that time with and building his family.
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If the person isn't on government assistance and is working full time, who really cares if he spends the majority of his free time playing video games? At least that man is getting enjoyment, which is more than a lot of men can say. I'd rather see a man have a video game addiction than an alcohol or drug addiction, that's for sure.
Any addiction is not conducive to being a functioning member of a family or society. All addiction is detrimental. Who cares? The man's wife and children... or if he has none, that he's likely to never have any.
I have more thoughts on this- but I'm drinking.
Anywho... 4-5hrs a night on video games IS a societal problem if writ large.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 12:00 am to Gusoline
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That being said. The idea you have to work non stop and never have leisurely hobbies is stupid. Gaming is just this generations version of going to the bar/joining a bowling league/working on cars/ whatever else men used to do after work.
Tell that to Mike Johnson, because he and congressional Republicans clearly don't understand that.
I sure as heck didn't see Mike Johnson going after people who day drink all day and can't hold down a job because they come into work drunk because of their alcohol addiction. It was just stupid in his comments to target men, and a specific group of men at that.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 12:03 am to TigerSharkMan
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TigerSharkMan
Are you MGTOW?
Johnson is likely speaking to males who actually have a base desire to be a part of society and have family. If that isn't you, that's okay.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 12:06 am to SallysHuman
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Any addiction is not conducive to being a functioning member of a family or society. All addiction is detrimental. Who cares? The man's wife and children... or if he has none, that he's likely to never have any.
I have more thoughts on this- but I'm drinking.
Anywho... 4-5hrs a night on video games IS a societal problem if writ large.
Would you say the same thing if a man spent 4 - 5 hours a night working on his car? Or 4 - 5 hours a night playing golf or tennis or going to a bowling league? Or 4 - 5 hours a night exercising? Or 4 - 5 hours a night hanging out with the guys playing cards? Or 4 - 5 hours a night watching tv or reading?
All of those would do the same thing, take the man away from his family.
I tossed out the marijuana comparison because we know there are many marijuana users who are absolutely productive members of society. Just like there are many gamers that are also productive members of society.
And who's to say he isn't gaming with his wife and kids? One of the guys I know who games does exactly that. To them it's no different than going out and throwing a football. It's the same level of bonding.
Yes one guy I know who is a gamer is single and he is probably going to be single his entire life and he's okay with that. Again, he's not hurting anyone, so why the issue?
Posted on 10/7/25 at 12:08 am to SallysHuman
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Are you MGTOW?
Johnson is likely speaking to males who actually have a base desire to be a part of society and have family. If that isn't you, that's okay.
I don't consider myself MGTOW anymore, but yes there was a time when I was pretty deep into MGTOW. While I disavow the more extreme parts of MGTOW (cutting yourself off from society, trying to hurt the country economically, no contact with women of any kind, degrading women online), there are still parts of MGTOW I agree with (Working on yourself for yourself, not for a woman. Being in shape. Focusing on your hobbies instead of just trying to get a woman.).
While it's not related to the topic, I had to accept several years ago that I had a choice. If I wanted a woman I would have to severely settle in one of the following ways:
- I would not be attracted to the woman (they would probably be obese or at least severely overweight).
- They would have some sort of addiction or personality issue.
- They would be divorced.
- They would be coming with kids, potentially multiple kids and from multiple fathers.
I had to accept I would have to settle or just accept being single. MGTOW helped me with accepting the fact I'll be single the rest of my life.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 12:17 am
Posted on 10/7/25 at 12:10 am to SallysHuman
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*Hopefully* he is expecting men to lead on this issue and not be all Adam-like and abdicate their will to whatever pleases them in the moment.
Maybe he doesn’t feel equipped to admonish women... though they need it in equal doses.
Men are to lead... and lead by example- perhaps that is what he's attempting to speak to.
Sorry but if men and women are truly "equal", then they shouldn't be protected from being called out. Just like I think first dates should now be dutch (if the woman makes an equal or higher salary, they can pay for their own food and drinks). Trying to "shield women" is a big part of the problem. Women take advantage of our system and are never called out for it.
If anything Mike Johnson should've been calling out women, as they are far more likely than men to be on government assistance. In reality though, I don't blame Johnson for calling out able bodied people being on government assistance, but it should've been a general call out, not on men specifically.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 12:16 am
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