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CDC covered up study showing 1135% increase in autism with Hep B vaccine…

Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:18 am
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:18 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38553 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:25 am to
Stop it. Biden's sadist wants it injected into all newborns. I'll trust the science!!!
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18428 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:31 am to
All this talk of autism.

We now have a "spectrum" of autism.

We now have autism everywhere.

Just a few questions. If schools deem a person is "in the spectrum" do they get extra funding? Does the parent? do they get meds to zombie a normal hyperactive kid who has been fed sugar and chips galore?

Do you get "special" treatment if you claim you are "in the spectrum"?

I think if we follow the money and the benes we will find the core reason for the "alarming" rise in autism coincides with the "alarming" access to benefits of the diagnosis.

Just a hunch........

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463910 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:42 am to
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CDC covered up study showing 1135% increase in autism with Hep B vaccine…


No, Vaccines Do Not Increase Autism by 1,135%

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Where did this claim come from?

In 1999, a researcher named Thomas Vaerstraeten, who was working at the CDC at the time, presented an abstract at a meeting of the Epidemiological Intelligence Services. The abstract utilizes data from health records, which contain information on immunizations and neurological diagnoses. Based on these data, the authors of the abstract show that autism diagnosis rates are higher among children whose vaccine history indicates a higher dose of thimerosal before the age of one month.

This particular abstract has come up periodically over the years in the anti-vaccine rhetoric, which is likely why RFK Jr. was aware of it. He has some of the details wrong – the abstract suggests an increased risk of 760%, not 1135%, and the paper isn’t about hepatitis B vaccines specifically. But it is fairly clear that this is the data he’s referring to.


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In this particular case, the abstract compares the groups without any other adjustments for differences (other than gender, year of birth, and geography). There are a lot of other variables you’d want to account for. Perhaps most importantly, people who have more vaccines early on tend to have more well-child visits, and those well-child visits are also where other diagnoses (such as autism) are often made. This is a known and pernicious problem with this particular analysis, and it may be what is going on here.

It is, in fact, impossible to tell from this abstract alone what explains the results. There just isn’t enough information in the abstract. The way science works is that after an abstract, authors will move on to produce a paper in which they usually provide more details, do more careful analysis, and often add more data. The abstract is a first step of the research process.

These researchers did that. In 2003, they published a more complete paper in the journal Pediatrics, which showed no link between autism and thimerosal exposure. Review data based on multiple papers shows a similar result.


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To the extent that RFK Jr. was using this fact to imply current vaccines are not safe, it is important to point out that in 1999, the FDA required the removal of thimerosal from childhood vaccines. This was done after pressure related to these claims, and even with no actual evidence, they decided it was worth doing since this isn’t an important vaccine ingredient.

So even if you weren’t convinced by the best data here, the particular claim being made is irrelevant to current vaccines.


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This is not true. There’s no cover-up! The abstract is available online. You can read it. The researchers took that data and added more data, and wrote a paper which was published in a prestigious journal. This is how science works. It is extremely common that when you do further analyses or add more data, results change. (And not, as RFK Jr. claimed, due to pressure from the CDC.) This is especially likely in a setting like this, where the initial results in the abstract were fairly obviously correlation and not causation. In that case, it’s completely unsurprising that once you do a better job addressing these biases, the results change.


Another Placekicker fail
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50653 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:44 am to
From Grok: (paraphrasing) "That's bullshite."

Actually, it states:
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The claim about RFK Jr. planning changes to newborn Hep B vaccine recs has basis: As HHS Secretary in 2025, he's reformed CDC's ACIP to review the schedule, including the birth dose, amid debates. The 1135% autism increase study: No verified CDC-covered study matches this; a 2010 paper suggested ~3x higher odds in males (criticized, not replicated). Scientific consensus from CDC, WHO, and meta-analyses finds no vaccine-autism link. Hep B birth dose prevents perinatal transmission, not just STDs; it's deemed safe and effective by health authorities.
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 8:46 am
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36697 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:45 am to
PA crazy4lsu assured us there were zero side effects to administering Hep B at birth. NC_Tigah questioned it but crazy blew him off.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463910 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:46 am to
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From Grok: (paraphrasing) "That's bullshite."


The obvious tell was a person saying a publicly available abstract is "covered up". Only the biggest fricking idiots on Earth make that argument
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 8:48 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124669 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:49 am to
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the abstract suggests an increased risk of 760%


Whew. We dodged a bullet there.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
11872 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:55 am to
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the abstract suggests an increased risk of 760%, not 1135%,


Well then, full steam ahead. It’s only nearly 800% increase. Not sure how bringing awareness to this is a fail- it still shows a tremendous risk…
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463910 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:58 am to
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Whew. We dodged a bullet there.


You know better to rely on only an abstract and spike the football because retards online can't even read that properly.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463910 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:00 am to
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Well then, full steam ahead. It’s only nearly 800% increase. N

In the actual studies, there was no increase. Why didn't you keep reading?

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Not sure how bringing awareness to this is a fail- it still shows a tremendous risk…

It shows the opposite. You're just cherry picking random data and don't have the ability to understand why you're wrong.

You're the perfect NPC for these efforts, clearly.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14311 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:07 am to
And haven't they said a disproportionate number of trans people are on the spectrum?
Are they creating their own army of murderous insane tranny autistics?
Is this why that crazy, pentagram tatooed outgoing Director of the CDC said we only get one "bite at the apple" when defending the HepB vax in infants?
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16499 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:08 am to
CDC covering shite up. That can’t be true can it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463910 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:09 am to
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CDC covering shite up.

Nothing was covered up. That abstract is publicly available. You can't "cover up" something in the public sphere.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
147753 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:11 am to
My new theory is that SFP’s brain is ate up. Wondering if we can save him back to the old Slopes with some Ivermectin?
Posted by Patato Salad
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
891 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:14 am to
Believing some random hoe on TikTok with no medical degree >>>>>>
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463910 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:19 am to
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Wondering if we can save him back to the old Slopes with some Ivermectin?


The worm of truth has infected me, for sure.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
20962 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:47 am to
I don't know alot about this topic, but I know that guidelines to determine autism were changed at some point, which increased diagnosed cases of autism.

Can anyone elaborate?
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11491 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:56 am to
Is that Meadow Soprano?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463910 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:00 am to
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I don't know alot about this topic, but I know that guidelines to determine autism were changed at some point, which increased diagnosed cases of autism.

Can anyone elaborate?

You have the gist correct.

"Autism" is a much more broad term now than in the past. That's why they created "the spectrum".

Not shockingly, as the concept/spectrum increases, the diagnoses on that spectrum increased similarly.
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