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The U.S. was founded as a Christian nation. Not this Judeo-Christian crap.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 8/23/25 at 5:40 pm
Christianity is incompatible with the teaching in the Talmud and Koran.
The good news is Sean Hannity and the rest of the propagandists are not claiming we are an Islamic-Christian nation like they propagandize with Judeo-Christian rhetoric.
The US was founded as a Christian nation and we should be proud of that fact, simply because it bears good fruit when followed.
The good news is Sean Hannity and the rest of the propagandists are not claiming we are an Islamic-Christian nation like they propagandize with Judeo-Christian rhetoric.
The US was founded as a Christian nation and we should be proud of that fact, simply because it bears good fruit when followed.
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The term “Judeo-Christian” began appearing in U.S. political discourse in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, but its widespread use by politicians gained traction in the 1930s and 1940s. It was initially used to describe shared ethical and religious values between Judaism and Christianity, often in the context of promoting unity against external threats like fascism or communism.
A key moment came in the 1930s, when liberal and progressive groups, including some politicians, used “Judeo-Christian” to counter anti-Semitism and emphasize a common moral framework. For example, the National Conference of Christians and Jews, founded in 1927, promoted the term to foster interfaith cooperation, and its influence grew during the New Deal era. By the 1940s, President Franklin D. Roosevelt occasionally referenced shared “Judeo-Christian” values in speeches, particularly when addressing the moral fight against Nazism.
The term became more prominent in the 1950s during the Cold War, as politicians like President Dwight D. Eisenhower used it to contrast American values with “godless communism.” It was invoked to underscore a unified religious identity rooted in biblical traditions, appealing to both Jewish and Christian voters. This era saw the term embedded in political rhetoric, often tied to American exceptionalism and moral superiority.
While earlier uses existed in theological or academic contexts (e.g., 19th-century references in religious scholarship), its political adoption in the U.S. was largely a 20th-century phenomenon, peaking mid-century as a unifying ideological tool.
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Posted on 8/23/25 at 5:46 pm to GumboPot
It was founded as more of a "Deist" nation, not a Christian nation.
Read the letters of the founders to one another or to their spouses, children, friends. Read newspapers from the time.
God comes up with almost annoying frequency.
Jesus Christ is almost never mentioned.
That's why things say IN GOD WE TRUST instead of In Jesus we trust or "Jesus Saves".
Read the letters of the founders to one another or to their spouses, children, friends. Read newspapers from the time.
God comes up with almost annoying frequency.
Jesus Christ is almost never mentioned.
That's why things say IN GOD WE TRUST instead of In Jesus we trust or "Jesus Saves".
Posted on 8/23/25 at 5:52 pm to Eurocat
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God comes up with almost annoying frequency.
Jesus Christ is almost never mentioned.
That's why things say IN GOD WE TRUST instead of In Jesus we trust or "Jesus Saves".
Lol what God do you think they were talking about? They were descendants of Puritans and Quakers.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 5:53 pm to GumboPot
I agree that the colonies were overtly Christian, not Judeo-Christian. I think that term is meant to be inclusive of Jews who share an old Testament with Christians.
The nation, itself, as a nation, was not founded as a Christian nation, though, at least in a formal sense. No mentions of Jesus Christ are included in the document, and that angered many Christians like the Presbyterians hailing from Scotland who wanted a national covenant like the Scottish Covenanters (the original Christian Nationalists) did a century before.
Culturally, America was Christian, but we were not founded as a Christian nation in a formal sense, I’m sad to say.
I’d love for this nation to formally recognize Jesus Christ as our Lord and King and make a national covenant to honor Him as such.
The nation, itself, as a nation, was not founded as a Christian nation, though, at least in a formal sense. No mentions of Jesus Christ are included in the document, and that angered many Christians like the Presbyterians hailing from Scotland who wanted a national covenant like the Scottish Covenanters (the original Christian Nationalists) did a century before.
Culturally, America was Christian, but we were not founded as a Christian nation in a formal sense, I’m sad to say.
I’d love for this nation to formally recognize Jesus Christ as our Lord and King and make a national covenant to honor Him as such.
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 8/23/25 at 5:53 pm to Eurocat
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It was founded as more of a "Deist" nation, not a Christian nation. Read the letters of the founders to one another or to their spouses, children, friends. Read newspapers from the time. God comes up with almost annoying frequency. Jesus Christ is almost never mentioned. That's why things say IN GOD WE TRUST instead of In Jesus we trust or "Jesus Saves".
The founders were confident about this statement because Christianity was all they knew: “We hold these truths to be self evident”. “Truths” were not coming from the teachings of the Talmud and/or the Koran. They came from the Bible.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 5:57 pm to GumboPot
While Christianity and Judaism are different beliefs, they aren't entirely seperable since Christianity was an extension of Judaism.
Paul said Gods promise to Isreal is irrevocable and it's all part of God's plan.
He also warned against arrogance towards the Jews.
I don't pretend to know how God will work it
all out, but I do believe He will.
Until then, this ole baw will support Israel.
Paul said Gods promise to Isreal is irrevocable and it's all part of God's plan.
He also warned against arrogance towards the Jews.
I don't pretend to know how God will work it
all out, but I do believe He will.
Until then, this ole baw will support Israel.
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 8/23/25 at 5:58 pm to GumboPot
The U.S. was founded Christian. ‘Judeo-Christian’ came later—1930s propaganda, 1950s Cold War slogan. Truth is plain: when Christian law is kept, the fruit is good.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:03 pm to FooManChoo
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The nation, itself, as a nation, was not founded as a Christian nation, though, at least in a formal sense. No mentions of Jesus Christ are included in the document, and that angered many Christians like the Presbyterians hailing from Scotland who wanted a national covenant like the Scottish Covenanters (the original Christian Nationalists) did a century before.
And it was deliberate. It was debated at the time and the decision to leave God and/or Jesus out of the constitution was intentional. Some founders wanted it included but the majority ruled against it
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:06 pm to lake chuck fan
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While Christianity and Judaism are different beliefs, they aren't entirely seperable since Christianity was an extension of Judaism.
Tell me you’ve never read the Talmud without telling me you’ve never read the Talmud.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:08 pm to GumboPot
quote:do you have any idea how may "founding fathers" were adamant unitarians? do you even know about unitarians of the 1700's?
The U.S. was founded as a Christian nation.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:12 pm to SlayTime
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While Christianity and Judaism are different beliefs, they aren't entirely seperable since Christianity was an extension of Judaism.
Tell me you’ve never read the Talmud without telling me you’ve never read the Talmud
Nope, never have. Not sure what that has to do with my comment or this topic.
Explain
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:14 pm to GumboPot
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Haym Salomon (also Solomon; April 7, 1740 – January 6, 1785) was a Polish-born American merchant best known for his actions during the American Revolution, where he was the prime financier to the Continental Congress.
Born in Leszno, Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, Salomon studied finance in Western Europe before emigrating to New York City in 1775. After the American Revolutionary War broke out in the same year, Salomon supported the Patriots by providing financial services while working alongside Robert Morris, the Superintendent of Finance of the United States, and risked his life as a member of the Sons of Liberty, leading to multiple arrests by the British for espionage
He helped convert French loans into hard currency by selling bills of exchange on Morris' behalf, and also brokered large donations to the Patriot cause. This included a critical $20,000 loan in 1781 that enabled George Washington’s decisive Yorktown campaign, a turning point for American independence. From 1781 to 1784, Salomon helped provide over $650,000 ($14.8 million in 2024). He was also an advocate for religious liberty by co-founding Philadelphia’s Mikveh Israel synagogue and challenging discriminatory laws. Despite donating his entire fortune to the Continental Army and several Founding Fathers of the United States, Salomon died penniless in Philadelphia in 1785 due to the failure of government officials and private lenders to repay the debt they owed to him.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:15 pm to G&P
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Truth is plain: when Christian law is kept, the fruit is good.
Yeah, the New Testament and the Methodists and other far left sects have worked out great. How many churches push gay propaganda on their flock? Jasmine Crockett is a Baptist, but she's also a total idiot.
Founded by mostly Christians is different than "founded Christian."
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:21 pm to G&P
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when Christian law is kept, the fruit is good.
“No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.”
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:21 pm to lake chuck fan
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While Christianity and Judaism are different beliefs, they aren't entirely seperable since Christianity was an extension of Judaism.
Paul said Gods promise to Isreal is irrevocable and it's all part of God's plan.
He also warned against arrogance towards the Jews.
Humans have so much difficulty with timelines. Paul would cast down the teaching of the Talmud and Koran today. Both came centuries after the New Treatment.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:23 pm to faraway
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o you have any idea how may "founding fathers" were adamant unitarians? do you even know about unitarians of the 1700's?
Still a sect or denomination of Christianity.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:25 pm to G&P
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The U.S. was founded Christian. ‘Judeo-Christian’ came later—1930s propaganda, 1950s Cold War slogan. Truth is plain: when Christian law is kept, the fruit is good.
Learn something new every day.
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The term "Judæo Christian" appears in a letter by Alexander McCaul which is dated October 17, 1821. The term in this case referred to Jewish converts to Christianity. The term was similarly used by Joseph Wolff in 1829, in reference to a type of church that would observe some Jewish traditions in order to convert Jews. Mark Silk states in the early 19th century the term was "most widely used (in French as well as English) to refer to the early followers of Jesus who opposed" the wishes of Paul the Apostle and wanted "to restrict the message of Jesus to Jews and who insisted on maintaining Jewish law and ritual".
Friedrich Nietzsche used the German term "Judenchristlich" ("Jewish-Christian") to describe and emphasize what he believed were neglected aspects of the continuity which exists between the Jewish and Christian worldviews. The expression appears in The Antichrist, published in 1895 but written several years earlier; a fuller development of Nietzsche's argument can be found in the prior work, On the Genealogy of Morality.
The concept of Judeo-Christian ethics or Judeo-Christian values in an ethical (rather than a theological or liturgical) sense was used by George Orwell in 1939, along with the phrase "the Judaeo-Christian scheme of morals". According to theologian Richard L. Rubenstein, the "normative Judaeo-Christian interpretation of history" is to treat human suffering, such as a plague, as punishment for human guilt.
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:27 pm to GumboPot
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Still a sect or denomination of Christianity.
Ehhh...
Really not Christians, more socially acceptable atheists.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:27 pm to GumboPot
We get it: you hate Jews.
But in an effort to help, please note that the entirety of the Old Testament includes not only the Torah, but many other Jewish books - many still call the Old Testamebt the ‘Hebrew Bible’.
One other little factoid, Jesus was a Jew.
I’m not sure if you consider yourself Christian but if you do, I’d like to know what Bible you read…
But in an effort to help, please note that the entirety of the Old Testament includes not only the Torah, but many other Jewish books - many still call the Old Testamebt the ‘Hebrew Bible’.
One other little factoid, Jesus was a Jew.
I’m not sure if you consider yourself Christian but if you do, I’d like to know what Bible you read…
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:28 pm to Knight of Old
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We get it: you hate Jews.
You should read some passages from the Talmud. They hate us A LOT more.
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