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Italian PM Meloni says Trump offered non-#NATO Article 5-type security
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:43 pm
Trump Offers Security
If true and Ukraine screws this up they only have themselves to blame. Putin isn’t going to let them join NATO because he doesn’t want missiles parked on his doorstep. This is the best Ukraine can hope for considering they have already lost most of the land Putin is asking for.
If true and Ukraine screws this up they only have themselves to blame. Putin isn’t going to let them join NATO because he doesn’t want missiles parked on his doorstep. This is the best Ukraine can hope for considering they have already lost most of the land Putin is asking for.
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:43 pm to guy4lsu
Z Man doesn’t want peace
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:48 pm to guy4lsu
Europe and Ukraine would be stupid to trust Trump after the shitshow “summit” in Alaska. I’m predicting that the next episode of South Park will reveal that Satan is actually Putin and Trump is in love with him.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:51 pm to Kentucker
Trump has done all he can. Ukraine has to be willing to make a deal.
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"The crucial issue remains security guarantees to prevent new Russian invasions, and this is the aspect on which the most interesting developments were recorded in Anchorage…In this regard, President Trump today revived the Italian idea of security guarantees inspired by NATO's Article 5. The starting point of the proposal is the definition of a collective security clause that allows Ukraine to benefit from the support of all its partners, including the United States, ready to intervene in the event of further attack," Meloni said. She said that European states remain united in supporting Ukraine in this phase of negotiations. "The path to peace is not easy, but it is important that it has been undertaken," she added. She considers it positive that "glimmers of hope for peace are appearing in Ukraine." Meloni said that the agreement is still complicated but finally possible. "Only Ukraine will be able to negotiate the terms and its territories," the Prime Minister of Italy said.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:51 pm to guy4lsu
If Trump offered that he is a fool.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:52 pm to Kentucker
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Kentucker
You sound like a bitch
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:54 pm to Kentucker
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Europe and Ukraine would be stupid to trust Trump after the shitshow “summit” in Alaska. I’m predicting that the next episode of South Park will reveal that Satan is actually Putin and Trump is in love with him.
Trump didn’t start this war. Biden and the intel community started this dumpster fire of a war.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:54 pm to guy4lsu
Trump has done nothing. All Putin has to do is smile at Trump and his brain goes to mush. In my long life I’ve never seen one strongman have such control over another. It’s historical.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:55 pm to TigersHuskers
I’m sure you know from bitches.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:56 pm to Kentucker
You old leftist.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:56 pm to guy4lsu
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Ukraine has to be willing to make a deal.
There is no Ukraine.
There is only a globalist puppet state after Z was installed.
If the globalists want peace they’ll accept it.
If they don’t because it would mess up their money laundering they’ll reject it.
I suspect they’ll try to accept it if they think they can launder the rebuilding funds to their initiatives and deny it if they can’t.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:57 pm to Kentucker
Explain in great detail what Putin has gotten out of Trump.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:57 pm to guy4lsu
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Trump didn’t start this war. Biden and the intel community started this dumpster fire of a war.
I’m positive it was Russian troops invading Crimea that started this war. When the US did nothing, Putin figured he could take the whole country.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:58 pm to Kentucker
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In my long life
All the liberals have left is old white people. I bet you are in the KKK
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:58 pm to Kentucker
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Trump has done nothing. All Putin has to do is smile at Trump and his brain goes to mush. In my long life I’ve never seen one strongman have such control over another. It’s historical.
Putin and Russia have control of most of the land they are asking for. Give us your detailed assessment on how Ukraine can retake that territory. Instead of trashing Trump, why don’t you explain how Ukraine can reclaim that territory on its own?
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:58 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Explain in great detail what Putin has gotten out of Trump.
Whatever he wants.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:58 pm to tide06
Europe should be the.one that has to offer any security guarantee. And it should not be tied to the US having to back it similar to Article 5.
If Trump did offer a US security guarantee he has totally switched lanes.
If Trump did offer a US security guarantee he has totally switched lanes.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:00 pm to Mushroom1968
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All the liberals have left is old white people.
Says the geezer who worships another geriatric old white man.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:01 pm to Kentucker
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Says the geezer who worships another geriatric old white man.
God is pretty old I’ll give you that. Nothing to do with your party and being in the KKK though
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:03 pm to guy4lsu
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Instead of trashing Trump, why don’t you explain how Ukraine can reclaim that territory on its own?
Instead of worshiping a pedophile, why don’t you explain why Trump went to Alaska, greased up and bent over for Putin to plow him again. Putin is alpha, Trump is beta.
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