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re: Italian PM Meloni says Trump offered non-#NATO Article 5-type security

Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:01 am to
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14730 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:01 am to
quote:


I’m positive it was Russian troops invading Crimea that started this war.


Refresh my memory. Who was the US President when that happened?
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19397 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:03 am to
Putin went to Crimea during Obama. Kept his head down during Trump and turned up a half dozen notches during Biden. Now Trump had a B-52 with escort jets buzzing overhead upon Putin’s arrival on American soil. Tell me again who’s strongmanning who ?
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46903 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:07 am to
When the US quit sending planeloads of cash and equipment to the Ukraine, Europe said it will step up and cover the bills. France gave about $3.50, then said they were through. The others spent little time paying, and countless hours making speeches, requesting that the US continue to bankrupt itself.

No thanks.
This post was edited on 8/17/25 at 8:47 am
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:19 am to
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Z Man doesn’t want peace


no, the politicians in American dont want piece. they are laundering money to family foundations by the hundreds of millions, each time a check goes to the Clown of Ukraine.

they want this to go on for a long time
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4617 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:28 am to
should be a knock down drag out in the white house tomorrow. i hope trump allows it all to be on tv. europe is going to demand that ukraine has a path to nato membership which is a russian deal breaker.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19397 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:33 am to
The old liberal argument, the facts are somewhere and don’t know where they are but somehow will argue that point without ever seeing anything as proof. This scenario has been played over and over by liberals against Trump and all of them come up as bullshite but you libs will believe the next one is coming soon
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
55873 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:39 am to
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Kentucker

Your problem is that you bought into the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax. Now, you're afraid to let it go because it might make you look like a dummy. Well, let me tell you. You already look like a dummy with these hot takes, so you might as well start being honest with yourself.
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
8110 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:43 am to
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Europe and Ukraine would be stupid to trust Trump after the shitshow “summit” in Alaska. I’m predicting that the next episode of South Park will reveal that Satan is actually Putin and Trump is in love with him.


What a retard.
Posted by rocksteady
Member since Sep 2013
2994 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:44 am to
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Kentucker


Someone give this poor son of a bitch an ice cream cone, the dementia has him. Please don’t forget the following: you’re retarded, old, and a fagot.
Posted by TuDog
Boston
Member since Jun 2005
4543 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:45 am to
Were you in on the Russian collusion scam?
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31705 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:45 am to
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Europe and Ukraine would be stupid to trust Trump after the shitshow “summit” in Alaska. I’m predicting that the next episode of South Park will reveal that Satan is actually Putin and Trump is in love with him.

So this is how retarded leftists think?

Just.. wow... hard to believe grown adults can intellectually be that ridiculous..

Seriously, ya'll are so screwed in the head.

This post was edited on 8/17/25 at 8:47 am
Posted by bamaoldtimer
Member since Dec 2009
1763 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:46 am to
First off, Ukraine is a European problem. Second, letting the murderer dictate how he will kill you is no bueno! Third, only way to end war is kill your enemy or sue for peace.

Ukraine should ask its European partners what will they do when Putin lobs a handful of low yield battlefield nukes? Will the mighty Brit’s and smug French unleash there nukes? Highly unlikely.

I don’t like Putin and it is up to the Ukrainians to decide their fate. Defeating Russia is an illusion unless you are willing to risk nuclear war.

I say let Britain, France, Germany supply weapons at THEIR expense. We, the United States need to keep our distance but be prepared.

I feel sorry for the Ukrainians and Russians being affected, but it’s not my fight.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46903 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:51 am to
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the politicians in American dont want piece. they are laundering money to family foundations by the hundreds of millions, each time a check goes to the Clown of Ukraine.


Possible bribe list released
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
9246 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:53 am to
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Putin went to Crimea during Obama. Kept his head down during Trump and turned up a half dozen notches during Biden



I can’t imagine why Putin felt emboldened.






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