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PPI blows through expectations - over 3x higher than expected

Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:34 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:34 am
.9% month over month vs expectations of .2%. Uh oh.

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This post was edited on 8/14/25 at 7:37 am
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
12779 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:37 am to
Do you have a link to prove your point?

"Excluding food and energy prices, core PPI rose 0.9% against the forecast for 0.3%. Excluding food, energy and trade services, the index was up 0.6%, the biggest gain since March 2022."

Why exclude these items from their findings?
This post was edited on 8/14/25 at 7:44 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463655 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:38 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292686 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:39 am to
quote:

Wholesale prices rose far more than expected in July, providing a potential deterrent for the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates in September, a Bureau of Labor Statistics report Thursday showed.


I'm shocked. Who would have ever seen this coming?
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:41 am to
I will just wait for the revision until I panic
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
16801 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:41 am to
Time for the panicans to come out and play only to go into complete denial/obfuscation mode in about 3-4 months. It’s a predictable process.
This post was edited on 8/14/25 at 7:42 am
Posted by NorCali
Member since Feb 2015
1550 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:41 am to
Services inflation seemed to be a very high outlier. Can someone explain how or if this can be attributed to tariffs?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463655 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:42 am to
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Services inflation seemed to be a very high outlier. Can someone explain how or if this can be attributed to tariffs?


Perhaps that's more aligned with immigration-deportations?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:43 am to
quote:

Time for the panicans to come out and play only to go into complete denial/obfuscation mode in about 3-4 months. It’s a predictable process.


No panic, just laughing about this idea that inflation is right where we want it so Powell is too late. Unemployment was just fine this morning too.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292686 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:43 am to
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Time for the panicans to come out and play only to go into complete denial/obfuscation mode in about 3-4 months.


In theory the tariffs will be in full effect by then, and prices will continue to rise.

I dont understand how a grown man cannot see how universal and long term tariffs harm the consumer.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92294 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:44 am to
So what begins?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292686 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:44 am to
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No panic, just laughing about this idea that inflation is right where we want it so Powell is too late.


STDTiger bat signal.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:45 am to
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dont understand how a grown man cannot see how universal and long term tariffs harm the consumer.


The tariff payments to the treasury are lauded around here each month yet people simultaneously argue prices won’t be heading up.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292686 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:46 am to
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The tariff payments to the treasury are lauded around here each month yet people simultaneously argue prices won’t be heading up.


Exactly.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:46 am to
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Why exclude these items from their findings?


Because they’re considered highly volatile and not core items.

Inflation was much higher if you include them, fwiw.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
1942 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:47 am to
with CPI better than expected, and PPI worse than expected, this means the companies are accepting a large portion of the tariff burden. We need to see if CPI increases more than expected next month. See if the Producers pricing is passed onto Consumer prices, capiche?
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
27939 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:47 am to
Did you look at the breakdown at all?

Bond market has completely disregarded this number.

Want to know why? "Portfolio Management" was the majority of the increase. It was up 5.8% MoM.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
25562 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:49 am to
Congratulations to SFP and Roger; something bad may be happing to the USA, so they can finally celebrate.

Until the real numbers come out, anyway.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
12779 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:51 am to
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Inflation was much higher if you include them, fwiw.


Show me.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24162 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:51 am to
How excited are you right now?
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