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Obama judge denies DOJ request to unseal grand jury testimony of GM.

Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:46 am
Posted by Mushroom1968
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:46 am
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:47 am to
But I saw Cory Booker foam at the mouth about how Trump's admin is hiding stuff...
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:48 am to
Step 2. Blame Trump for covering up.

Step 3. Media parrots DNC talking points on this
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:51 am to
"publicly reported" el oh el

Typical dirty judge who is in cahoots with MSM.

Media: Imma parse through the info we want released and keep hidden the parts we don't
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:52 am to
muh Justice warriors laughing at us
Posted by prouddawg
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:56 am to
Probably totally political but records in child sex crime cases are typically a booger bear to get ahold of.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:57 am to
In federal court, GJ records in general are difficult to unseal. This was something the admin knew they were almost guaranteed to fail on but a lot of their Epstein-related efforts have been performance art since MAGA revolted at the prior information dumps.
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:00 am to
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Step 2. Blame Trump for covering up.

Step 3. Media parrots DNC talking points on this



Yup. Same happened when judge said no to unseal Epstein's.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:01 am to
But the Porksammich and Bigperm have been crying that Orange is hiding the JE
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:05 am to
Can’t Trump just order all government investigative files to be released?
Posted by i am dan
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:05 am to
Man, politics sure does make it hard to investigate crimes.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Step 2. Blame Trump for covering up.

Step 3. Media parrots DNC talking points on this


Can you articulate the "DNC talking points" ?

The Maxwell case is still ongoing (she's appealing issues). Why would we ever think the GJ testimony would be permitted to be unsealed when (1) her case is still ongoing/open and (2) she opposed the release, for those reasons?
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:08 am to
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Step 2. Blame Trump for covering up.

Step 3. Media parrots DNC talking points on this

SFP right on queue for Steps 2-3.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:11 am to
Seems that the Leftists are having a hard time making up their minds re whether they want the Epstein dirty laundry made public. Ha ha. The Judiciary is their last refuge . Will be fun to watch them squirm as the walls close in.
Posted by Cobbvol
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:12 am to
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Can you articulate the "DNC talking points" ?

The Maxwell case is still ongoing (she's appealing issues). Why would we ever think the GJ testimony would be permitted to be unsealed when (1) her case is still ongoing/open and (2) she opposed the release, for those reasons?


The appeal was just recently filed a week or so ago. It has not always been out there.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:13 am to
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SFP right on queue

Posted by td01241
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:13 am to
Remember when Jake japper told us all with a straight face during the Wikileaks situation it was all illegal was us plebs to seek out and read the info but luckily they had been able to read through it and would totally tell us the truth about it bro?


You don’t hate the media enough
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:15 am to
I don't know much about this but there is a serious reason these files were sealed and a simple request to unseal them seems ludicrous. Not sure what it will take to get them unsealed if it's even possible but to this non lawyer, this is not surprising.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:17 am to
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The appeal was just recently filed a week or so ago.

No. That was the appeal to the Supreme Court.

The COA judgment (that's being appealed to the USSC) was rendered in September 2024. Here's the ruling. The original appeal was filed in 2022.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:17 am to
Here’s a Look at What the FBI’s Epstein Files Would Reveal

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In October 2017, the FBI did start to release a sliver of its investigative files on Epstein. Ultimately, over the course of nearly three years, it processed a total of 11,571 pages that the FBI considered responsive to Robertson’s initial request. However, it released only about 1,200 pages, which were heavily redacted.

The FBI posted those 1,200 pages in the bureau’s online FOIA reading room, The Vault. To be clear, the FBI wasn’t acting particularly generous or proactively transparent when it released this narrow set of Epstein documents to the Vault. It was forced to do that. Under the 2016 FOIA amendments, if an agency gets three or more FOIA requests on the same subject it is required to release the records to everyone. If there’s any doubt that’s why the FBI released those files, there’s the telltale series of numbers at the bottom of each page, which corresponds with the federal docket number of Robertson’s FOIA case.


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Vaughn Index
Like other reporters, I’ve been scouring the RadarOnline docket in search of any details that might shed more light on the 10,000 pages the FBI withheld. Drawing on my own experience from filing nearly 200 FOIA lawsuits against government agencies, I know that when a case comes to a close, an agency is required to produce a so-called Vaughn Index (named after a 1973 court case), which describes the documents it withheld and redacted, and the justification for doing so.

The Vaughn Index the FBI produced for RadarOnline is 170 pages—and it contains some pretty revealing details about what is hiding inside the FBI’s Epstein Files.

Among other things that the FBI processed, but withheld, was: information provided by confidential sources, letters addressed to then-US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, Alex Acosta (who cut a plea deal with Epstein in 2008 that saw him avoid federal sex-trafficking charges), subpoenas to MySpace, agents’ handwritten notes, photographs, grand jury subpoenas, intelligence analyses, and a wide-range of correspondence related to the FBI’s victim assistance program.


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Even more intriguing, the index included correspondence with foreign government agencies, a large volume of subpoenaed phone records and a lot of bank records. Separately, the FBI created a spreadsheet that contains a detailed breakdown of the documents it processed. Importantly, it reveals that the FBI conducted 55 interviews with witnesses, victims and potential investigative targets between 2006 and 2008. The interview summaries, known as “302s,” and the names of all the interviewees were withheld with the exception of one, Alfredo Rodriguez, Epstein’s former butler, who was sentenced to 18 months in prison in 2012 for concealing Epstein’s “black book” during the federal probe.



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