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Survival guns that fail when it actually counts

Posted on 7/31/25 at 5:27 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104254 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 5:27 pm


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The idea of a .410/.45 revolver seems solid for survival, but in practice, the Judge is more gimmick than go-to. Accuracy is inconsistent, and .410 out of a short barrel doesn’t give you much power or spread control. It’s big, bulky, and doesn’t really excel at anything. For defense or hunting, there are better tools for both. You don’t want to bet on a jack-of-all-trades revolver that doesn’t really master any of them.


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Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18660 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 5:36 pm to
Its a 45 you can use for fairly close range varmint control.

There may be better tools for both, but then you are carrying two things instead of one.
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
84616 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 5:51 pm to
I take it you haven't had a JTTF moment yet

ETA: hell, there's a country song centered around it

The Judge is an OB legend.
This post was edited on 8/1/25 at 5:19 am
Posted by halleburton
Member since Dec 2009
1600 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 7:27 pm to
Judge to the face? How did I miss this song…
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19987 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 7:29 pm to
Who is saying it is a “survival gun”? It is a fantastic snake and home defense gun. I don’t know who author “JoshC” is but after reading that I think he is either stupid in general or not very knowledgeable about guns. In addition to the judge, he lists the following as “survival” guns:

Remington 770
Remington 597
Keltec Sub2000
Mossberg Maverick 88
Century AK clone
Rossi .22 rifle
Savage Axis

It looks like he just made a list of guns he doesn’t like.
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
84616 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 4:02 am to
quote:

In addition to the judge, he lists the following as “survival” guns:

Remington 770
Remington 597
Keltec Sub2000
Mossberg Maverick 88
Century AK clone
Rossi .22 rifle
Savage Axis




I didn't click the link but these are just low priced firearms and a few aren't terrible. Ones I would never consider a "survival gun" though
Posted by Shut Up Mulllet
Member since Apr 2021
968 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 10:02 am to
I have a sub-2000 . It’s a camp / truck gun. I tend to be a little gun snobby. I bought the sub-2000 during the Obama gun scare because it was cheap.
I have fired boxes and boxes of ammo through that thing and it has ate it all.
Not the most accurate firearm , but I would take it with a quickness in a survival situation.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28065 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Remington 770
Remington 597
Keltec Sub2000
Mossberg Maverick 88
Century AK clone
Rossi .22 rifle
Savage Axis


This is his list of survival guns or a list of the worst guns ever made??

I have never messed with any Keltecs so that one may be different but all the others?

the 770 is terrible
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
39845 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 10:18 am to
Shoot yourself in the face with one and see what happens
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19987 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 10:34 am to
Remington 770
Remington 597
Keltec Sub2000
Mossberg Maverick 88
Century AK clone
Rossi .22 rifle
Savage Axis
Taurus Judge
Hi-point Carbine
Ar-7 survival rifle

This was his complete list of “survival” guns.

Again, I have no idea who author ‘JoshC’ is. But he doesn’t seem to have much credibility.
Posted by ThatBaw
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2023
376 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 10:46 am to
Just get an ole pump! Sound of that rack and intruders gonna be runnin!!!
Posted by SBGRosco
Member since Apr 2023
75 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 3:54 pm to
Chiappa Little Badger. Lightweight, accurate & reliable for SHTF times.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22417 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 8:28 pm to
I want a Colt Python in .357. I need to get off my arse and get one.
Posted by Cleathecat
Houston
Member since Feb 2021
1503 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 8:56 pm to
I thought the Mossberg Maverick was supposed to be a solid gun.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19987 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 11:42 am to
There are four or five good guns on that list. I own three of them, including a judge. The only real dog I see is the 770. Most are just entry level price point guns.

It is about expectations. For example if you spend $200 on a Rossi .22 rifle and expect it to have the fit and finish of an $800 Browning t-bolt or cz 457 you will be disappointed. If you are looking for a budget .22 that goes bang when you pull the trigger and is accurate enough for most things, and that you don’t feel bad about banging up in the boat or sxs you will be happy.

If I go buy a $30 plastic cooler because I need a cooler in a pinch I don’t expect it to be equal to a $400 roto molded cooler .

If I buy a $99 red dot I don’t expect the same out of it as a $600 Trijicon MRO.

Again it is about expectations and being realistic.

If I compare my 18’ Kenner with a new 65’ Viking the Kenner will lose. But I can afford the Kenner, the Viking not so much. Why should I hate my little boat because there is something bigger and better?
Posted by 98eagle
Member since Sep 2020
3092 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 1:02 pm to
For a survival firearm, I'll take the Ruger 10/22 Charger Ultimate Custom Build. Very lightweight, folding stock, accurate, and you basically have a machine gun if needed against multiple attacking targets.

It has a binary switch for normal single shot mode, "fully" semi automatic mode, or safety.

For the video below, it's age restricted so you have to click the Watch on YouTube link to see this badarse 22 rifle.

This post was edited on 8/2/25 at 1:18 pm
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23700 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

I thought the Mossberg Maverick was supposed to be a solid gun

It is. Especially the value you get with the low price. You can find them almost anywhere for less than $250. Look a little harder and you may end up under $200.

It is almost perfect for someone looking to get a cheap shotgun and then can move into more expensive guns with more features later in. The Maverick 88 is about as stripped down as it gets outside of a single shot break action. But they work and will shoot anything.

I bought my wife a 20 Guage Maverick 88 years ago. I ended up getting the 12 Guage to throw in the farm truck later on. It's been just fine and I don't lose any sleep over it getting beat up in that truck.
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