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AI and the job market 5 years from now
Posted on 7/18/25 at 7:51 am
Posted on 7/18/25 at 7:51 am
How exactly do we reconcile the fact that weve been pushing people into tech and STEM for decades now and AI can now basically complete, id guess, 50% of the production of these tech jobs with little to no human oversight?
What does coder do when AI has made his job obsolete? What about paralegals...or even most lawyers? This seems to be a tidal wave coming at us that noone is prepared for. Look at the transitional jobs as well...not everyone can be an Uber driver or food delivery when nobody has a job to go anywhere or order takeout. Even low level jobs like cashiers and secretaries are gonna be hit hard.
We are gonna reach a point at which practicality will have to take precedent over political idealism. I dont know how it will look...but the side that embraces this first will likely shape how the country looks for a long time.
What does coder do when AI has made his job obsolete? What about paralegals...or even most lawyers? This seems to be a tidal wave coming at us that noone is prepared for. Look at the transitional jobs as well...not everyone can be an Uber driver or food delivery when nobody has a job to go anywhere or order takeout. Even low level jobs like cashiers and secretaries are gonna be hit hard.
We are gonna reach a point at which practicality will have to take precedent over political idealism. I dont know how it will look...but the side that embraces this first will likely shape how the country looks for a long time.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 7:54 am to scottydoesntknow
I’m with you. Pandora’s box is getting opened. We are not ready for the fallout.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 7:57 am to CharlesLSU
There won’t be jobs for drivers - service jobs are toast as well
Posted on 7/18/25 at 7:58 am to scottydoesntknow
AI is not nearly as far along as some of you think
Posted on 7/18/25 at 7:59 am to CharlesLSU
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I’m with you. Pandora’s box is getting opened. We are not ready for the fallout.
People arent ready for it. The first response was a downvote with no reply. This is how people will respond at first, be mad about it, deny reality and press forward.
Anyone foolish enough to keep the boomer mentality will feel major hurt.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:01 am to scottydoesntknow
quote:show your work
id guess, 50% of the production
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:01 am to NIH
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AI is not nearly as far along as some of you think
Id argue the opposite. Even if this were true, AI is something that will improve at an exponential rate. We need rules and guidelines.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:02 am to NIH
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AI is not nearly as far along as some of you think
This
My Company is on the cutting edge of this stuff and the tools are just somewhat OK...maybe 20 years from now it might be a different conversation but now AI is pretty meh....
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:03 am to scottydoesntknow
I’m in one of the fields you said will be replaced by AI shortly. So far I’ve went against lawyers who’ve used AI that’s created fake case citations and misapplied the law. That opens the lawyer and his or her client to sanctions by the court. And even worse, it could be the difference between losing and winning in court.
Maybe you’ll be right in 10 years. And if you are, the government will have to pass a lot of protections. Society isn’t built for people to sit around bored. See summer 2020.
Maybe you’ll be right in 10 years. And if you are, the government will have to pass a lot of protections. Society isn’t built for people to sit around bored. See summer 2020.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:04 am to Diamondawg
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id guess, 50% of the production
show your work
Yeah just let me jump in my time machine real quick. Ill take notes and get back to you.
Some of yall have completely lost grasp of the meanings of words
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:04 am to scottydoesntknow
Learn to weld?
Having kids middle school age, it is a confusing time for guidance. Even before the AI (I think it's likely over-sold) revolution, it has been a time of high transition. The best I can do is try to raise very well-rounded kids who have a mix of hard and soft skills. I've got a few more years until any real career path decisions are to be made luckily.
Having kids middle school age, it is a confusing time for guidance. Even before the AI (I think it's likely over-sold) revolution, it has been a time of high transition. The best I can do is try to raise very well-rounded kids who have a mix of hard and soft skills. I've got a few more years until any real career path decisions are to be made luckily.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:04 am to scottydoesntknow
It's not that far along just yet.... but the bigger problem is close to what you are touching on.
You and every OT'er have pushed your children to go get a degree. You expect them to just walk in and get a job right out the gate, not realizing that your children are now competing against the whole world. When their degree that you pushed them to get, fails them, you say "oh, just go be a plumber or electrician", not realizing that those positions also take some schooling and work to get.
All the while, your children are forever priced out of homeownership and there are few opportunities available to them.
This is the problem we have today.
You and every OT'er have pushed your children to go get a degree. You expect them to just walk in and get a job right out the gate, not realizing that your children are now competing against the whole world. When their degree that you pushed them to get, fails them, you say "oh, just go be a plumber or electrician", not realizing that those positions also take some schooling and work to get.
All the while, your children are forever priced out of homeownership and there are few opportunities available to them.
This is the problem we have today.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:06 am to scottydoesntknow
tell me you don't work in tech without telling me you don't work in tech.
AI will simply enhance their abilities to do their jobs and make them more productive
AI will simply enhance their abilities to do their jobs and make them more productive
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:08 am to NIH
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AI is not nearly as far along as some of you think
I believe you are underestimating it.
MSN.com - Robinhood CEO - most new code written by AI
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That's according to Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev, who said on the 20VC podcast that the company's human-written code was hard to distinguish from AI-generated code. Among the company's engineers, "close to 100%" are using AI code editors, he said.
When asked what percentage of Robinhood's new code is AI-generated, Tenev said that it was around 50%. That's a higher percentage than what Microsoft and Google have previously said, with CEOs Satya Nadella and Sundar Pichai estimating around 30%.
Tenev acknowledged that the 50% metric was imprecise, thanks to the upgrowth of "agentic" code editors.
"We've moved from GitHub Copilot, which is an autocomplete system, to Cursor, and now things like Windsurf, where nearly all of the code is written by AI," Tenev said. "It's hard to even determine what the human-generated code is."
Taking a guess, Tenev estimated the "minority" of new code at Robinhood was written by humans.
Short - It has already changed my life
Longer --
All of the major platforms have advanced so much in the past 24 months, they are better at software development [at least in popular computer languages] than the most seasoned human equivalents. As Musk states, you don't have to the smarter than 'ALL', to be more productive than the current workforce. Most of us 'Talent' are somewhat less.
Two years ago, most code generated was basic. It often was riddled with inaccuracies, platform dependencies, errors and limitations.
Two months ago, I became grateful, knowing I will be retiring within a decade. They are ALL now better than I am, with over 40 years experience. I entered this field, half for the science & engineering, half for the art of design -- all for the creation.
Programming will continue and thrive. There will be more solutions generated. Right now it is likened to an the invention of the air-hammer in construction, making the developer several times as productive.
But in just a few years, we will no longer perform any of the development. We will become overseers of the solutions generated, instructed to not touch the generated code by hand. When that stage is successful, C suite executives will start shrinking those roles. No one will really know what is running, when or where.
It is an interesting time. Soon it will move to other disciplines as well. Our workforce will be changed, regardless of whether you are in electrical, mechanical, civil, etc.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:10 am to scottydoesntknow
I’m guessing grass cutting, house and driveway washing is going to get quite competitive with the influx of people looking to make money
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:10 am to scottydoesntknow
Hunt need to make it another 12-17 years.
But my position is safe from AI. But the young guys just starting not so much
But my position is safe from AI. But the young guys just starting not so much
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:11 am to dickkellog
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tell me you don't work in tech without telling me you don't work in tech.
Downvote for using this lame worn out catch phrase
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:11 am to captainFid
I’m not shocked that AI can code
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:11 am to RaginCajunz
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Learn to weld?
Having kids middle school age, it is a confusing time for guidance. Even before the AI (I think it's likely over-sold) revolution, it has been a time of high transition. The best I can do is try to raise very well-rounded kids who have a mix of hard and soft skills. I've got a few more years until any real career path decisions are to be made luckily.
We need to revert back many many years. There was a time before massive corporations and 9-5 careers. People had to be crafty, they had to develop actual skills beyond just "networking"
I think boys should learn a physical craft. There are things that a machine wont be able to do(at least in the forseeable future). I think we should phase out women in the workplace(obviously not completely). There are gonna be less jobs to do than people willing to do them. If we made raising children a job...that is a built in job right there for half the population. That alone would raise wages.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:13 am to tigeraddict
All I know is my Tesla drive flawlessly now for me - in 3 months I’ve had to take over once. And that will only get better and better over the next 5 years.
I watched some of what grok can do and it insane how much better it got in 6 months.
I watched some of what grok can do and it insane how much better it got in 6 months.
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