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NR: Exempting whole industries from immigration enforcement not good
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:00 am
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:00 am
Jason Richwine opined in National Review today:
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DHS recently decided it would not conduct worksite investigations or operations on the agriculture, restaurant, and hotel industries.
The new policy is a form of “administrative amnesty” for illegal workers in those industries. As with any amnesty, the recipients are allowed to remain in the U.S. for now. However, their new status comes not from Congress changing the law, but from the administration declaring it will not enforce the law against them.
How large is this amnesty? Having recently written a report on the illegal immigrant presence in each census-identified occupation, I reran the numbers based on the industries that Trump selected for protection. The results show that about 12.5 percent of illegal immigrants are covered. Since the Center for Immigration Studies estimated that there were 15.8 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. in January, that implies 2 million amnesty recipients.
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As large as that number sounds, it only begins to measure the damage to immigration enforcement. For one thing, the amnesty signals to illegal immigrants that self-deportation is irrational. Because DHS manpower is limited, meaningful reductions in the illegal population require voluntary returns as a complement to direct removals. Illegal immigrants may indeed leave voluntarily if they believe their employment opportunities have diminished and their chances of forcible removal have increased. Administrative amnesty teaches them the opposite — if they find a job in a favored industry, the authorities won’t bother them.
The same logic applies to potential illegal immigrants who are considering a visa overstay or an unauthorized border crossing. Tough talk about enforcement may have deterred them before, but now they know that, once here, they can stay as long as they find a protected job.
Exempting whole classes of illegal immigrants from deportation also changes the terms of the debate, distracting from the more fundamental problems with mass immigration. DHS insists that it will still focus on deporting the “worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens,” but this is the platform that Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris ran on. It suggests that illegal immigrants are fine as long as they have not committed violent felonies, which of course the vast majority have not. What about the flouting of our immigration laws, the job competition with natives, the disincentive to automate, the added cost of government services, and the assimilation challenge? These are the grounds on which deportations need to be justified.
Finally, administrative amnesty is bound to enhance the cynicism that voters feel about politics. It sometimes seems that when it comes to immigration enforcement, politicians will support all measures except the ones that work. In this case, it’s jobsite enforcement that works too well, and that’s why the administration is limiting it
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:02 am to prplhze2000
Nobody saw this coming. 
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:03 am to prplhze2000
Is it for illegals or for legal guest/seasonal employees?
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:04 am to Flats
Ronbots are so quick to jump on any anti-Trump bandwagon. Your boy is a fantastic governor. He will never be President. His fanboys are insufferable.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:05 am to prplhze2000
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DHS recently decided it would not conduct worksite investigations or operations on the agriculture, restaurant, and hotel industries.
Maybe I'm overthinking the use of the word "worksite." Have they said they're not going to investigate people who work in these industries at all, or are they just saying that they aren't going to perform worksite raids?
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:05 am to prplhze2000
I agree. Further, this will allow these employers to exploit these workers even more than they already do because it comes with a basic free “get out of deportation" card. These illegals will essentially be working for slave wages just to stay in the country.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:05 am to prplhze2000
Is this based on an actual order from Trump or is this just skyscreaming speculation like this board loves?
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:06 am to prplhze2000
I don't know how real this is, but the Conservative Treehouse said this is likely Senators close to the Big Ag folks could be threatening to not pass the BBB unless Trump makes these type of exceptions for Big Ag interest.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:06 am to BBONDS25
At some point you've got to admit you voted poorly man, though this post clearly lacks any substance as it appears to be based on speculation. You know damn good and well if it's true then Trump made a shite decision.
I'll hold my judgement here while we wait for actual information from the white house and not this speculative nonsense.
I'll hold my judgement here while we wait for actual information from the white house and not this speculative nonsense.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:07 am to prplhze2000
Law suits from other industries claiming unequal treatment, will stop all deporting.
Trump stepped into it this time.
Trump stepped into it this time.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:09 am to prplhze2000
Illegals are the term, we get that. But guest workers have been a thing for a day or so right ? Letting it continue in certain areas and having them known and returning home is exactly the way to handle it.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:09 am to prplhze2000
Deport everyone else not classified as such. As Americans start taking jobs illegals held, they can begin deporting these workers then.
Not to say they can't come back after being deported, but do it legally
Not to say they can't come back after being deported, but do it legally
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:11 am to PhtevenWithaV
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At some point you've got to admit you voted poorly man,
Wrong. He is doing exactly’what he said he would do and exactly what I voted for. You prefer Kamala. We get it. You were never ever going to like Trump. I don’t have to admit anything simply because you have TDS.
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You know damn good and well if it's true then Trump made a shite decision.
My understanding was this applied to legal seasonal/guest workers which has been a thing for decades. The author claims it applied to illegals. If someone can link me something supporting that supposition I will say I disagree with Trump.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:11 am to Tandemjay
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Law suits from other industries claiming unequal treatment, will stop all deporting. Trump stepped into it this time.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:15 am to BBONDS25
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He is doing exactly’what he said he would do and exactly what I voted for
You voted for him to grant blanket exceptions to keep criminals here?
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r. You prefer Kamala. We get it. You were never ever going to like Trump. I don’t have to admit anything simply because you have TDS.
I prefer Someone who doesn't want to keep illegals here, someone like Ron. Kamala would be doing the same nonsense Trump is doing, why would I vote for a retard who's going to protect criminals?
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My understanding was this applied to legal seasonal/guest workers which has been a thing for decades. The author claims it applied to illegals.
This is a thread about how it applies to illegals, you didn't offer any evidence to dispute it you just announced this was exactly what you voted for and you're glad we got amnesty for illegals instead of kumhill who would have given us.... amnesty for illegals.
WTG uniparty
You retards never learn
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:17 am to PhtevenWithaV
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At some point you've got to admit you voted poorly man,
You referring to the general election??? If so, GTFO ….
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:17 am to BBONDS25
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that isn’t how it works. At all.
Just watch and remember, they have the courts and the GOPe leaders said they will not impeach any judges.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:17 am to prplhze2000
Blah blah blah.....deportation is still full steam ahead. Who the frick cares if a few clean hotels and pick fruit
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:18 am to prouddawg
The general election came down to kumhil vs orange kumhil as we're now seeing, if you voted in the general at all you voted for a shite candidate.
But no I was referring to the primary
But no I was referring to the primary
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