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Titan: The Oceangate (Netflix)
Posted on 6/13/25 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 6/13/25 at 5:14 pm
Crazy story, seems the head Scientist was very humble, but arrogant in his work.
Great idea to lead tours to the Titantic. Bad execution of product.
Great idea to lead tours to the Titantic. Bad execution of product.
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 5:40 pm to Fearless_and_True
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the head Scientist
Stockton Rush? The co-founder and CEO? Is that who you mean?
Yeah, I dipped into this and got about 1/2 through . Fascinating stuff.
One of the main things I look back on is the coordinated lies by the media and several government agencies who felt compelled to put on this charade of them still being alive when they knew probably within 20-30 minutes of the 'pop' sound that it wasn't a rescue but a recovery.
The 'countdown' of how much air was left in particular was twisted and dark. THEY KNEW!! This was nothing short of a Hunger Games style prodcution.
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Why the DV? What did I say which wasn’t true? This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 5:14 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:12 pm to Fearless_and_True
Not sure humble is the word I’d use to describe Stockton rush.
Psychopath, megalomaniac, pompous a-hole
Psychopath, megalomaniac, pompous a-hole
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:15 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Stockton Rush? The co-founder and CEO? Is that who you mean?
Yeah, I dipped into this and got about 1/2 through . Fascinating stuff.
Yes
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The 'countdown' of how much air was left in particular was twisted and dark. THEY KNEW!!
It’s all about making viewer money now, not reporting the facts.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:16 pm to DCtiger1
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Not sure humble is the word I’d use to describe Stockton rush.
Psychopath, megalomaniac, pompous a-hole
Humble was used by one of his employees. But I agree, I wouldn’t call him the latter, he seemed very approachable
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:30 pm to Fearless_and_True
He wasn’t humble at all. He was driven by hubris and deliberately put innocent people in harm’s way with his greed. He was negligent at the time, and a total piece of shite in hindsight.
The parts with Josh Gates were interesting.
I can’t believe they just left that hull in the Canadian winter completely unprotected. No wonder the integrity of the hull sucked arse.
The parts with Josh Gates were interesting.
I can’t believe they just left that hull in the Canadian winter completely unprotected. No wonder the integrity of the hull sucked arse.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:41 pm to CocomoLSU
It absolutely blows my mind how tone deaf and in denial Rush was about that submarine.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:02 pm to RollTide1987
The scamming of dumb rich people makes perfect sense. Actually getting into the murder sub too was the unusual part.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:18 pm to Fearless_and_True
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Humble was used by one of his employees. But I agree, I wouldn’t call him the latter, he seemed very approachable
He fired everyone who disagreed with him or brought up safety issues.
Stockton Rush wasn't humble. He was crazy.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:18 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Yeah, I dipped into this and got about 1/2 through . Fascinating stuff.
The end was crushing.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:33 pm to Fearless_and_True
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Humble was used by one of his employees. But I agree, I wouldn’t call him the latter, he seemed very approachable
That was the guy he hired to film his self produced documentary. Of course he'd have a different opinion from everyone else. Rush was only humble when the cameras were rolling.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:10 pm to Fearless_and_True
He’s literally the reason people are dead. He wanted to be the musk or bezos of deep sea exploration. The carbon fiber hull never passed the pressure testing and he just said frick it good enough.
Did we watch the same documentary?
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I wouldn’t call him the latter, he seemed very approachable
Did we watch the same documentary?
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:25 pm to Fearless_and_True
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Humble was used by one of his employees. But I agree, I wouldn’t call him the latter, he seemed very approachable
Did they portray him differently on Netflix?
I saw the one on Max. He didn’t seem approachable at all to his employees. He basically fired anyone with any sort of disagreement or that raised concerns.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:05 am to illuminatic
Haven’t seen the entire documentary, but do they talk about the incident where he would not give up his PlayStation control and the other pilot almost got into a physical fight? That was a precursor of the fate yet to come. There were passengers on board and the sub wasn’t responding very well to commands. The people started getting panicked and under pressure - no pun intended - Stockton started acting like a fussy child instead of a calm & competent leader.
‘Humble’ is only something anyone would say who has been fooled by that guy.
‘Humble’ is only something anyone would say who has been fooled by that guy.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 6:59 am
Posted on 6/14/25 at 6:44 am to SouthEasternKaiju
I think that was the incident in which they dove the wreck of the Andrea Doria. Stockton Rush insisted on controlling the Titan and drove them right into a debris field. There was no physical altercation described in the documentary series but there was a verbal fight between Rush and David Lochridge - the chief pilot for OceanGate at the time. After they got stuck under the bow of the vessel, Lochridge took over control of the submersible and guided them back up to the surface. After that incident, Rush's relationship with Lochridge took a nose dive and Lochridge was eventually fired after writing an internal report for the company that warned about the dangers of the submersible operating at great depth.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 6:55 am to Fearless_and_True
He was the male version of Elizabeth Holmes.
His obsession and pursuit was surely not deep sea exploration. It was the status of being Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, etc.
His obsession and pursuit was surely not deep sea exploration. It was the status of being Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, etc.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 6:57 am to RollTide1987
I do recall it being said that Stockton apologized to David after they had reached the surface. Saying his actions were unprofessional. Whether sincere or not, it was obvious that his behavior disrupted the passengers on board, so if only for the sake of PR, Stockton ate his pride and admitted he was at fault. But I don't think it altered his true feelings, he just went to greater lengths to keep them hidden.
His arrogance & hubris remained unphased, and it cost him in the end.
His arrogance & hubris remained unphased, and it cost him in the end.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:02 am to RollTide1987
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Andrea Doria
Good book about this called "Astonishing Tales of the Sea"
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:04 am to Fearless_and_True
Don’t know which of the two docs it was, but I saw the entire Josh Gates segment. It’s fascinating because Gates, who is no stranger to extremely sketchy situations, basically was realizing in real time that Rush was full of shite and the Titan was a death trap. The fact that he called off going further down in the sun and that segment was cut from broadcast tells you all you need to know.
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