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Can the autopen be traced?
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:12 pm
It is electronic… so? How does that affect the investigation? Could it be controlled by an outside source?
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 8:16 pm
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:16 pm to 5WFSHR
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It is electronic… so? How does that affect the investigation?
Traced how? If every signature is the same, autopen. For those that are different in some way, actual. Unless they were smart enough to program in subtle changes in every signature. Otherwise, subpoenas are needed.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:19 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
Just wondering if they could use AI…
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:24 pm to 5WFSHR
Tracks were likely thoroughly covered. And it’s not like the revolving door of support staff who kept Joe propped up for 4 years didn’t have easy access to just about anything.
The potentially fraudulent EOs are much more concerning than the pardons, imo … although both are despicable at an unprecedented level. It’s stunning how many people were in on the Biden brain rot coverup.
The potentially fraudulent EOs are much more concerning than the pardons, imo … although both are despicable at an unprecedented level. It’s stunning how many people were in on the Biden brain rot coverup.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:26 pm to 5WFSHR
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Just wondering if they could use AI…
In a more sane world we could use antiquated tech like CCTV cameras to document it
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:27 pm to 5WFSHR
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:49 pm to 5WFSHR
quote:It's a mechnical (robotic) device. It's controlled by someone sitting in front of it, there's no purpose for actual electronic connectivity to be built-in. You need someone physically there with a piece of paper
It is electronic… so? How does that affect the investigation? Could it be controlled by an outside source?
Sans video evidence of Biden taking a nap on the couch while who the frick knows in 1600 is going to town with the machine, there's nothing to trace and no basis to invalidate anything signed with it (as would be true with any other usage of the autopen by prior administrations)
Their tracks are uniquely further covered by the fact that Biden almost certainly genuinely has no idea what the frick he signed. The biggest potential loose end ("I didn't sign that!") is completely closed
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:51 pm to RemouladeSawce
Ok. The auto pen is not an electronic signature… got it. My bad lol.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:55 pm to 5WFSHR
The white house uses an electronic auto pen that must be activated with a high security key card.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:00 pm to 5WFSHR
Yes it can. It has a digital footprint noting time it was executed. I seriously doubt the people using it thought that completely through
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:06 pm to 5WFSHR
I would think that possibly how, when, where at what time autopen was used. If Biden was at say the beach in a lounge chair win a signature was shown done at WH then that could provide a little insight. I’m sure that the doing signature is somehow documented in another form say a log book maybe. If he is not in the same city then it would be a bit of issue
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:13 pm to 5WFSHR
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Can the autopen be traced?
I imagine there are hundreds of cameras in the White House. Every room is probably recorded from six angles. It's on video archive somewhere wouldn't you think??
Wonder how you someone can get access to the video?
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:18 pm to llfshoals
quote:Autopens have been around for almost 100 years. If memory serves me correctly, digital footprints weren’t a thing then. It is fundamentally a mechanical device
Yes it can. It has a digital footprint noting time it was executed. I seriously doubt the people using it thought that completely through
A record entailing a perfect timestamp (which could then be cross-referenced with every second Biden was in public view) is essentially the only possible smoking gun, and you think that didn’t occur to anyone involved?
I don’t think you’ve thought this through
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:19 pm to i am dan
The Dems may be arrogant/stupid enough to not delete the evidence. Maybe CIA has video of autopen signings?
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:21 pm to 5WFSHR
I have heard a few times now that there is a 5 step process for the autopen to work. Meaning, there are a lot of people involved with this Autopen scandal
It’s not as simple as this…
It’s not as simple as this…
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:32 pm to 5WFSHR
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The Dems may be arrogant/stupid enough to not delete the evidence. Maybe CIA has video of autopen signings?
Why would the CIA turn themselves in?
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:37 pm to Woolfpack
I wonder if that's it, just connecting the dots of who used the card and when? And where was Joe and in what state of cognition at those times?
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:37 pm to FLTech
quote:Where is this process codified by law (or required by judicial ruling) in order for POTUS autopen signatures to be legal?
I have heard a few times now that there is a 5 step process for the autopen to work
If it was required, what makes you think his handlers weren’t able of executing 1-5? They executed his entire presidency after all. You’re indirectly implying POTUS would have a meaningful role in any of those steps when he barely knew where he was half the time. If he does know, they just wait 5 minutes until he doesn’t. There’s not a pack of auditors that follow him around when it’s time to sign something
This is getting your hopes up for nothing
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:38 pm to RemouladeSawce
quote:Oh I thought it through. I think you underestimate their arrogance. You need to have dealt with them to appreciate the audacity they flaunt the law, confident the swamp will protect its own.
I don’t think you’ve thought this through
So no, I don’t think for a moment they were that careful.
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