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Pakistani J-10Cs using PL-15 Air-to-Air Missiles shot down 5 Indian Fighter Jets
Posted on 5/7/25 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 5/7/25 at 1:38 pm
If the reporting is accurate that seems like a big win for China and their defense industry. Is India Incompetent or is the equipment to blame? I know alot of people joke about China making Temu planes but it seems like the French might be the ones making subpar fighter jets
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Posted on 5/7/25 at 1:39 pm to John Barron
That would certainly be something if true.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 1:42 pm to John Barron
According to wikipedia the vast majority of the Indian Air Force's aircraft are Russian made. It appears that it is your beloved Russians who are making inferior stuff. Which is not surprising since all the Russians can do well is play chess, drink, and tell lies.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 1:43 pm to John Barron
1) i highly doubt either the Chinese jets nor the French jets had they Best avionics and Air-to-air missiles due to export restrictions
2) Pilot training and platform use are likely mostly to blame
3) it is easier to defend your airspace, knowing you have ground air defenses and radar systems to rely on vs being the attacker and having to fly into a hot area.
2) Pilot training and platform use are likely mostly to blame
3) it is easier to defend your airspace, knowing you have ground air defenses and radar systems to rely on vs being the attacker and having to fly into a hot area.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 1:52 pm to AnotherWin4LSU
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AnotherWin4LSU
It was the French Rafale. Aren't you the guy who claimed to live in Moscow for 20 years and wanted to bomb your ex wife's house in Saint Petersburg? Looks like you got cucked by a Russian.

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Posted on 5/7/25 at 1:56 pm to John Barron
Thanks John China Barron
Posted on 5/7/25 at 1:59 pm to tigeraddict
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) i highly doubt either the Chinese jets nor the French jets had they Best avionics and Air-to-air missiles due to export restrictions
I found this note from Grok 3 interesting when doing a analysis of the Pakistani J-10Cs abilities
6. Strategic Role in Pakistan Air Force
Counter to Indian Air Force: The J-10C was acquired by Pakistan in 2022 as a direct response to India’s Rafale jets. It provides the PAF with a platform to match or exceed the Rafale’s BVR capabilities, particularly with the PL-15E’s range compared to the Rafale’s Meteor missile (150+ km).
First-Look, First-Shot Capability: PAF officials, including retired Air Commodore Khalid Farooq, have claimed the J-10C’s AESA radar and PL-15 combination gives it an edge in BVR engagements over the Rafale, though the Rafale’s electronic warfare suite and combat experience (e.g., Mali, Syria) provide counteradvantages."
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:06 pm to tigeraddict
The pakistani jets from china likely wouldnt be export restricted. At least not the JF-17
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:10 pm to John Barron
Nah bud - Its an image from a tail section of a Mig 29 that crashed during a training exercise in 2024.
Notice how none of these news stories have actual sources, its either he said/she said or some anonymous source tells CNN. Sounds like propaganda.
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Notice how none of these news stories have actual sources, its either he said/she said or some anonymous source tells CNN. Sounds like propaganda.
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Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:21 pm to John Barron
How much are you paid to post?
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:31 pm to h0mer
Who the hell is "Press Information Bureau"
" Press Information Bureau, identify them as old images from a 2021 MiG-21 crash in Punjab and a 2024 MiG-29 crash in Rajasthan, unrelated to recent events. Indian officials confirm no aircraft losses,"
Not to mention French Intelligence Confirmed the loss of the Rafale Fighter Jet. It's comical to see all these clowns denying French Intelligence and Visual Evidence. Just like the Ukrainian Bros
Holy shite! We got Pajeets signing up to Cope about the Indian Air Force being Air Temu
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" Press Information Bureau, identify them as old images from a 2021 MiG-21 crash in Punjab and a 2024 MiG-29 crash in Rajasthan, unrelated to recent events. Indian officials confirm no aircraft losses,"
Not to mention French Intelligence Confirmed the loss of the Rafale Fighter Jet. It's comical to see all these clowns denying French Intelligence and Visual Evidence. Just like the Ukrainian Bros

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Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:34 pm to METAL
Not really all that alarming or surprising. India is using planes from the UK. Nothing on par with US
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:36 pm to Arkaea79
Rafael's are French, 5th gen, fighters.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:38 pm to John Barron
I think the Indians want to throw in the towel and go back to the way it was. Too bad though the Indians didn't have our stuff. It would be nice to see Chinese versus US technology.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:38 pm to John Barron
There is a lot more to this than just the guy that makes the planes. Maintenance. Training. Fuel. Pilots.
Long ago Phil Hill, a famous race driver, wrote an article about a guy in an MG lapping a guy in Ferrari. You gotta have a good driver in that seat to make the race car work.
Long ago Phil Hill, a famous race driver, wrote an article about a guy in an MG lapping a guy in Ferrari. You gotta have a good driver in that seat to make the race car work.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:41 pm to Arkaea79
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India is using planes from the UK
They use French Mirage and Rafale fighters.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:41 pm to John Barron
Reports of multiple jets being shot down and french confirming 1 Rafael downed
Both the image being old and the shoot down of a rafael can both be true......
i think i read that India has 36 Rafael's in service.
Both the image being old and the shoot down of a rafael can both be true......
i think i read that India has 36 Rafael's in service.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:41 pm to John Barron
JohnBarron, I remember when you had six posts. I had no idea you'd become the world champion PoliBoard poster. But as you well know, any ambitious aspiring poster has to start at some point in time.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:42 pm to AnotherWin4LSU
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Which is not surprising since all the Russians can do well is play chess, drink, and tell lies.
You forgot about their ballet and circus performers…
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