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When will the double tax on stock dividends and gains be removed such a pox.

Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:05 am
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
11949 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:05 am
It’s un American and unconstitutional in Nature. Why does one who risks investment pay taxes on gains from monies already paid tax on?

The trash and filth that blows its wad on booze drugs and luxury items doesn’t deserve one penny of my rewards.

This double tax must be removed and capitalism restored!
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86611 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:08 am to
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It’s un American and unconstitutional in Nature. Why does one who risks investment pay taxes on gains from monies already paid tax on?



Ukraine bros need your money.........bro. Have you considered thinking of the chi'ren?
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
18026 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:10 am to
I'm not saying your wrong here, but that probably ranks pretty low on Trumps priority list. IMHO
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
60628 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:12 am to
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When will the double tax on stock dividends and gains be removed such a pox.


What double tax on stock dividends and gains?

Taxes on L/T capital gains, in most instances, are taxed at 15% and S/T gains and dividends are taxed as regular income.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4006 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:13 am to
Main street and middle class tax cuts first, Wall Street has gotten preference for 30 years.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
11949 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:16 am to
Why, he would benefit the most from it? It’s just mind numbing how hard the government works to keep you from becoming successful is all.
The capital gains tax is the worst act of communist democrats ever.

An EO to remove this pox is warranted!
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
11949 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:20 am to
Your figures are way off! And why should I have to pay anything on dividends. That is after tax investment???

Also on old stocks you inherited when you move or cash them there’s that capital gains villain waiting to strike!
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
21788 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:23 am to
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What double tax on stock dividends and gains?



You’re really not that dense are you?

Dividends are taxed each distribution. Meanwhile if the underlying security instrument appreciates over time when you sell that you’re taxed as well. Never mind the fact you were already taxed on the dollars your earned to buy the stock and your estate will be taxed for at least the fourth time when you die and leave anything behind.


You’re right, it’s not double.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
559 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:28 am to
yes that was george W's circular logic. because capital gains and dividends are new money just like interest which means they're income.

but let's be honest pard its not like you have any capital gains, dividends or interest!

This post was edited on 5/5/25 at 10:40 am
Posted by fisherscatfan
Indianapolis
Member since Sep 2020
668 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:36 am to
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What double tax on stock dividends and gains?



You obviously have never had a basic finance class.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31128 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:37 am to
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What double tax on stock dividends and gains?
WTF man?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53137 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:38 am to
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Your figures are way off!


No they aren’t. It’s 15% to 20% based upon total income.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53137 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:39 am to
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Also on old stocks you inherited when you move or cash them there’s that capital gains villain waiting to strike!


If you inherited them you got a step up in basis.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
11949 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:40 am to
You never mentioned the 20% until now.

The gist of the topic is that revenue gained from taxed income should not be taxed again period. It’s government theft.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53137 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:42 am to
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You never mentioned the 20% until now.


It was my first post in this thread. Long term capital gains are taxed at 15% until you exceed $550,000 of income. Then they are taxed at 20%. His figures were not way off, as you claimed.
This post was edited on 5/5/25 at 8:45 am
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
11949 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:43 am to
Hogg says I’m destitué and penniless and posted a meme.

How can I recover from that?

Homeless shelter awaits me hope it has internets.

Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
20805 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:45 am to
It’s a double tax in the sense that outside of a retirement account the money used to invest has already been hit with income tax. So then I take what’s left out it in the market and get a gain and pull it out it’s taxed again.

Fair argument that it’s double taxed and no short or long term gains should be taxed at all.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
11949 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:50 am to
Correct.

Thanks you get the win for comprehension!
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14762 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:12 am to
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It’s a double tax in the sense that outside of a retirement account the money used to invest has already been hit with income tax. So then I take what’s left out it in the market and get a gain and pull it out it’s taxed again.


I see what you are getting at, but that's stretching the meaning of double taxation.

For example, you earn income and pay income taxes. That income is used to buy a home (property tax) or other goods (sales tax). That's not a double tax because each tax is on a separate transaction (e.g. earning income, then owning a house). Similarly, it isn't a double tax if the state and local governments both charge you a sales tax.

The best example of a double tax, imho, is someone who works in one state while living in another. In those cases (minus the tax exemptions and credits that exist to fix the situation) both states would have a claim to tax the income he made.

In your broader way of thinking, you are right that you are getting taxed more. I also think a capital gains tax is terrible.

I just don't think the term "double tax" is accurate.

Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
1373 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:16 am to
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t was my first post in this thread. Long term capital gains are taxed at 15% until you exceed $550,000 of income. Then they are taxed at 20%.



You forgot the net investment income tax (NIIT) of %3.8 for individuals with incomes exceeding $200,000 and couples with incomes exceeding $250,000.

Also estate tax sunsets this year and will go down to @ $6 million from @ $14 million.
This post was edited on 5/5/25 at 9:23 am
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