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Judge Beryl Howell goes all in blocks another Trump EO - Perkins Coie
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:08 am
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:08 am
Wow -
You have to read this opinion, it could he a DU/Reddit melt post.
LINK
FYI Perkins worked with Russian intelligence assets to try and frame the president.
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Judge finds Trump executive order targeting Perkins Coie is unconstitutional
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Perkins Coie represented former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election and hired a research firm that retained former British spy Christopher Steele, who produced the infamous "Steele Dossier."
You have to read this opinion, it could he a DU/Reddit melt post.
LINK
FYI Perkins worked with Russian intelligence assets to try and frame the president.
This post was edited on 5/3/25 at 8:13 am
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:13 am to Strannix
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While four firms have sought to fight Mr. Trump's executive orders targeting them in court, at least nine others have reached agreements with the White House to avoid being penalized by the president. The deals, announced by Mr. Trump on social media, include commitments to provide between $40 million and $125 million in pro bono legal work.
So the Clinton’s lawyers hate poor people?
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:21 am to Strannix
This is so ridiculously unconstitutional.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:25 am to udtiger
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This is so ridiculously unconstitutional.
Absolutely. This EO is clearly viewpoint discrimination and a violation of the First Amendment.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:27 am to Strannix
SCOTUS is gonna fix this any day now, right...
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:30 am to Strannix
We don't have to follow judges who order the nation to commit suicide.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:30 am to Strannix
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"Using the powers of the federal government to target lawyers for their representation of clients and avowed progressive employment policies in an overt attempt to suppress and punish certain viewpoints, however, is contrary to the Constitution, which requires that the government respond to dissenting or unpopular speech or ideas with 'tolerance, not coercion,'" Howell wrote.
So rich. frick these lawyers. They’re lucky they still have licenses, much less Security Clearances.
Rudy Giuliani and John Eastman would like a word.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:31 am to LSU2ALA
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This is so ridiculously unconstitutional.
Absolutely. This EO is clearly viewpoint discrimination and a violation of the First Amendment.
So... you're retarded
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:37 am to Strannix
Marc Elias of Perkins Coie (at the time, he has since left) also worked with Abrams’ nonprofit in Georgia and in several other swing states to change the mail in ballot rules for the 2020 election.
That law firm is crooked as hell.
That law firm is crooked as hell.
This post was edited on 5/3/25 at 8:38 am
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:43 am to udtiger
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So... you're retarded
No, I understand how the first amendment works. This is the federal government imposing a penalty on another party based on the viewpoint they held. That is unconstitutional any day. This is not even close.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:45 am to LSU2ALA
The holding of a security clearance is a freedom of speech issue?
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:50 am to LSU2ALA
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No, I understand how the first amendment works. This is the federal government imposing a penalty on another party based on the viewpoint they held. That is unconstitutional any day. This is not even close.
Funny...
I don't see security clearance anywhere in the 1st Amendment.
In fact, there's no constitutional OR statutory right to one. It can be granted and revoked at the absolute whim of the executive.
Period.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:51 am to Hognutz
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SCOTUS is gonna fix this any day now, right...
“No standing”
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:52 am to LSU2ALA
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No, I understand how the first amendment works.
LOL retarded groomer alert.
LOLOL Muh Security Clearances is first amendment rights
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:52 am to Jbird
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The holding of a security clearance is a freedom of speech issue?
If/when the government engages in discrimination based on viewpoints it becomes one.
Free Speech Center - Viewpoint Discrimination
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Viewpoint discrimination is a form of content discrimination particularly disfavored by the courts. When the government engages in content discrimination, it is restricting speech on a given subject matter. When it engages in viewpoint discrimination, it is singling out a particular opinion or perspective on that subject matter for treatment unlike that given to other viewpoints.
For example, if an ordinance banned all speech on the Iraq War, it would be a content-based regulation. But if the ordinance banned only speech that criticized the war, it would be a viewpoint-based regulation.
Because the government is essentially taking sides in a debate when it engages in viewpoint discrimination, the Supreme Court has held viewpoint-based restrictions to be especially offensive to the First Amendment. Such restrictions are treated as presumptively
Congress.gov article on it
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Content-based regulation of speech is generally subject to strict scrutiny and presumptively unconstitutional.1 The Supreme Court considers viewpoint-based regulation of speech to be an egregious form of content discrimination.2 A law3 is viewpoint-based when it regulates speech based on its specific motivating ideology or the speaker’s opinion or perspective.4 The following general principles have emerged from the Supreme Court’s decisions on viewpoint discrimination and the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment.
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Second, the government generally may not compel a private party to espouse a particular viewpoint.11 This principle extends to compelled association12 and compelled subsidization of speech.13
Third, laws that do not single out a specific viewpoint on their face, but that were enacted for the purpose of suppressing an idea or message, or otherwise invite discriminatory enforcement, sometimes run afoul of the First Amendment as well.14
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:53 am to Strannix
Why can’t the Trump WH pick and choose what law firms he wants to represent the WH?
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:53 am to udtiger
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I don't see security clearance anywhere in the 1st Amendment.
Don't be retarded
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:54 am to GumboPot
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Why can’t the Trump WH pick and choose what law firms he wants to represent the WH?
They why in that decision-making is the variable being analyzed.
There are certain justifications for action that are illegal, and many that are not.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
None of what you posted has anything to do with the security clearance issue.
The Executive has unfettered discretion in this regard. The granting, withholding and revoking of a clearance is by its nature discriminatory and arbitrary.
The Executive has unfettered discretion in this regard. The granting, withholding and revoking of a clearance is by its nature discriminatory and arbitrary.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
So Trump is forced to hire SFP law firm if Judge Beryl Howell says so?
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