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Can y’all finally admit that Trump’s wide ranged tariffs were stupid?

Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:07 am
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:07 am
All of you so-called conservatives have been backing some of the dumbest, most liberal leanings of this clown show of a presidency. Conservatives do not support tariffs. They support the free market and there’s nothing free market about wide ranging tariffs. Please admit that you were wrong. Bend at the altar of the free market and put away this pipe dream of everything being made in America.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:08 am to
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All of you so-called conservatives have been backing some of the dumbest, most liberal leanings of this clown show


Not conservatives. Old Union members and Democrats who simply dont like the Democrats social policy.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:08 am to

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All of you so-called conservatives have been backing some of the dumbest, most liberal leanings of this clown show of a presidency. Conservatives do not support tariffs. They support the free market and there’s nothing free market about wide ranging tariffs. Please admit that you were wrong. Bend at the altar of the free market and put away this pipe dream of everything being made in America.




..............This post is gay like your gay state.
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 9:09 am
Posted by MajorityWhip
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:08 am to
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They support the free market


You COMPLETELY missed the point of the tariffs. Congratulations on being a retard!
Posted by Cromulent
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:08 am to
Sorry your Chinese trinket business isn’t gonna make it.
Posted by Lizardman2
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:08 am to
No.
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:08 am to
The almighty free market has spoken.
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:09 am to
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You COMPLETELY missed the point of the tariffs. Congratulations on being a retard!


Free market 1..,

You and you Trump suck ups, no matter what the frick he does…0

This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 9:13 am
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:12 am to
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Sorry your Chinese trinket business isn’t gonna make it.


Nope. Don’t own anything like that. Don’t even participate in anything like that. However, I do like to buy products and when Target, Walmart, and other Big box operators showed up and told Trump we’re about to have a bunch of empty shelves, he cratered, realizing the foolishness of his ways. These are not trinkets. They are everything that you dumbasses buy.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:13 am to
It is difficult to say. The claim has been made that many countries have expressed interest in revisiting trade deals. If the claim is true and those, on balance, are more favorable to US manufacturers and consumers then you'd be hard-pressed to call the tariff threats "stupid".

If nothing changes, then yes, it was all folly.

Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:14 am to
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Not conservatives.


Why are conservatives not in favor of getting tariffs removed from american businesses and products? That seems like a staple of conservative viewpoints.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294604 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:15 am to
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Why are conservatives not in favor of getting tariffs removed from american businesses and products?


Its that todays narrative regarding the reason for tariffs? It changes daily.

I thought it was to return mfg.
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:17 am to
But Trump‘s wide ranging tariffs are not in response to actual tariffs. They are in response to a trade deficit, and a trade deficit almost exclusively. Look at his dumb formula on how he calculated the so-called “reciprocal“ tariffs. It’s all a bunch of BS. His whole first 2 to 3 months have been nothing but self-inflicted wounds to our economy and our future.
Posted by Melkor
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:19 am to
It takes a special kind of retard to see something working and then claim it is not. Damn, you're a dumbass.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:19 am to
No but you might be.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:20 am to
Returning manufacturing to the US is a great goal. We don’t need to be held hostage by our enemies for rare earths, microchips or medicine. It is hard to compete with peon wages and no environmental rules.

We have also faced countries making up bs regulations to keep our products out. Honduras imports more pork from the US than the EEC.

You would have been a Tory. Oh this revolution is hard and I can’t trade with England, boo hoo. Because that is exactly what this is, a revolution against the trade barriers against us. Our dear friends to the north had huge tariffs on America agricultural products before Trump even started his second term.

We have been buying other countries cheaper products but they won’t buy ours. Trump is looking to level the playing field and return manufacturing to the US.
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 9:21 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:20 am to
I have no issue proclaiming them stupid, if they were.

I remember a story from his first term where some White House aid was trying to dunk on Trump by saying “we’ll be walking through the halls and he’ll have an idea and ask us if we can do it. These things are usually crazy and possibly illegal and we have to tell him no.”


Now, I don’t want every administration to operate like this. I don’t ALWAYS want a Trump-like figure to be what we need. But I remember thinking, “Christ, isn’t this a good thing? The guy is out here trying to do whatever he can to help us at least.”

I don’t get all the “he folded like a bitch!” rhetoric. Especially if he pulls back and things improve. Judging literally everything through the lens of “ha did this make his trying look dumb or not” is ridiculous.
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:20 am to
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It is difficult to say. The claim has been made that many countries have expressed interest in revisiting trade deals. If the claim is true and those, on balance, are more favorable to US manufacturers and consumers then you'd be hard-pressed to call the tariff threats "stupid".


As Trump is reversing course, this is definitely going to be his spin on the situation. He will never admit that this was fool hearty and stupid. He’s simply going to claim victory with some rough outline trade agreements with X number of countries. As we all know, it takes years to actually hammer out trade deals. The spin you’re going to hear is definitely going to be that we got some really great trade deals because of this foolishness, but it’s all a bunch of smoke and mirrors.
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3390 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:21 am to
Only a stupid person would think that what has been done to the USA in the last 50 years could be fixed in 2 months. It will take time and we will experience some pain, but in the long run it will benefit the American citizens.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5482 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:26 am to
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As Trump is reversing course,


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