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Cool Video Describing Ancient Christian Liturgy
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:14 pm
Interesting that it mimics the Catholic Liturgy, which is largely unchanged for 1900 years
The Ted Talk and Rock Concert in the Arena is not the way my brothers
The Ted Talk and Rock Concert in the Arena is not the way my brothers
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:21 pm to SkiUtah420
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The Ted Talk and Rock Concert in the Arena is not the way my brothers
I agree. But before casting stones, how much is the Catholic Church worth?
Do immigrants get to go to the Vatican and claim asylum?
Glass houses and stuff.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:24 pm to SkiUtah420
Keyword here is "liturgy"
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:30 pm to SkiUtah420
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Ted Talk and Rock Concert in the Arena
False dichotomy.
And when your symbology and rituals have become reified and devoid of the actual Gospel then I don't care how old they are.
Filthy rags.
Spewed warm water.
Rotting corpses.
Open graves.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:30 pm to Speckhunter2012
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I agree. But before casting stones, how much is the Catholic Church worth?
Do immigrants get to go to the Vatican and claim asylum?
Glass houses and stuff.
How much is the Church of England worth? Or Hillsong Church? Or any other Mega Church.
Much of the Church's wealth lies in its priceless art and holdings that date back hundreds of years.
As a cradle catholic I've never been mandated to give to the "Vatican"...I donate to my local parish and maybe the Arch Bishops' fund or to certain religious orders.
I don't care how much money the Vatican is sitting on, as its a Sovereign State that is arguably the most influential Religio-Political entity of all time.
It is quite different than donating to Buckhead Church, so Andy Stanley can buy another Lake House
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:32 pm to McLemore
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False dichotomy.
And when your symbology and rituals have become reified and devoid of the actual Gospel then I don't care how old they are.
Filthy rags.
Spewed warm water.
Rotting corpses.
Open graves.
How do you reconcile that we practice the same "rituals" as the Apostles practices in 34 AD?
Last time I check there was no Fog Machine in the upper room when the 12 received the Holy Spirit on Pentacost.
I encourage you to rencounce your heresy
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:52 pm to SkiUtah420
This is not a topic that belongs on Political Talk.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:50 pm to Champagne
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This is not a topic that belongs on Political Talk.
Then there's a quite simple solution for that. Don't click on it. Then you don't have to concern yourself with it, now do you?
Posted on 4/22/25 at 11:42 pm to SkiUtah420
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How do you reconcile that we practice the same "rituals" as the Apostles practices in 34 AD?
Last time I check there was no Fog Machine in the upper room when the 12 received the Holy Spirit on Pentacost.
I encourage you to rencounce your heresy
I’m always amazed how church members at almost any denomination are always sure they got everything right.
So, at what point did the Catholic Church throw this tradition out?
1 Timothy 3:1-7: Qualifications of Bishops. This saying can be trusted: Whoever wants to be a bishop desires a noble task. 2 Therefore, a bishop must be above reproach, the husband of only one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, and a good teacher. 3 He must not be a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not prone to quarreling, not greedy. 4 He must manage his own household well and ensure that his children are submissive and respectful in every way. 5 For if someone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of the Church of God? 6 He should not be a recent convert so that he will not become conceited and incur the same condemnation as the devil. 7 He must also enjoy a good reputation among outsiders so that he may not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s snare.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 11:44 pm to SkiUtah420
Catholics are just the modern day Pharisees.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:17 am to Richleau
Catholicism is a tragedy. Jesus saves!!
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:50 am to MemphisGuy
I'm entitled to express my opinion when an Off Topic thread pops up on the Political Talk board.
I'm well aware of how much the ancient Sacrifice of the Mass resembles exactly the Mass of today. I'm well aware of what this means for Christianity as a whole. The key here is that this particular knowledge is not at all Political, it has nothing to do with Policy and doesn't belong on a forum meant to be for Political Talk.
I'm well aware of how much the ancient Sacrifice of the Mass resembles exactly the Mass of today. I'm well aware of what this means for Christianity as a whole. The key here is that this particular knowledge is not at all Political, it has nothing to do with Policy and doesn't belong on a forum meant to be for Political Talk.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:40 pm to Champagne
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The key here is that this particular knowledge is not at all Political, it has nothing to do with Policy and doesn't belong on a forum meant to be for Political Talk.
Okay, Mr. Board police.
Although I'm fairly certain I know exactly why you commented the way you did... but anyways...
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:07 pm to Champagne
Religious post get blasted no matter what forum they are in, perhaps Chicken will make a religious forum at some point. Until then the Political board is probably the best place since religion directly impacts people’s political beliefs.
If it bothers you so, don’t click on threads like this. I for one love these type of discussions and debates as they are much harder to have in person because people get so upset about religion and politics when they know you personally.
If it bothers you so, don’t click on threads like this. I for one love these type of discussions and debates as they are much harder to have in person because people get so upset about religion and politics when they know you personally.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:14 pm to cssamerican
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they are much harder to have in person because people get so upset about religion and politics when they know you personally
I disagree. IMHO, when people are hiding behind an anonymous name on a message board, they are more comfortable to give free rein to their natural and deep-seated prejudice and hatred that they have for religions other than their own. And once one hateful person begins the attack, it becomes like a pack of rabid mad dogs as one hateful attacker after another joins in the attacks. The whole mess becomes one big hateful fight, insult fest and general cesspool of ill will.
In person, people are obligated to be more gentlemanly and polite because they don't want their face punched in and they don't want to get shot. Behind an anonymous name on a message board, people don't have to worry about that, so, I contend that discussing Religion in person is always better than doing so on an anonymous message board ESPECIALLY when the anonymous message board is supposed to be about Policy and Politics.
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:15 pm to SkiUtah420
Anyone who thinks the Holy Eucharist is merely a symbol is directly going against Jesus’ words.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:16 pm to cssamerican
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I for one love these type of discussions and debates
What in particular about this discussion and debate do you love? With regard to the original post and title of this thread, what in particular do you find most interesting?
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:21 pm to cssamerican
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So, at what point did the Catholic Church throw this tradition out?
You are someone that lacks understanding of the one true Catholic church. Priests being unmarried and celibate is not a mandate handed down by God, nor is it in the gospels. It is simply church tradition. The pope can at anytime change this and it would not undermine sacred scripture in anyway. Tradition in the Catholic Church can be changed. The Word of God can’t be changed, and that is what the video shows in the testimony of Justin Martyr.
The first Pope of the Catholic Church, St. Peter, was married as well.
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:24 pm to Furious
Where in the Bible does it mention popes, bishops, cardinals or any of the man made traditions that Catholics dedicate their lives to? Where does it mention nunneries, shutting themselves off from the world, etc?
Please understand that you are the same Pharisees Jesus rebelled against who value rules and tradition over the nature of the Word.
Please understand that you are the same Pharisees Jesus rebelled against who value rules and tradition over the nature of the Word.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:38 pm to SkiUtah420
I'm not sure how a video showing that the current Catholic eucharist is similar to that of in AD 155 proves that the catholic way is better than any Protestant church.
You do realize that most Protestant churches practice The Lord's Supper in a way very similar to that discussed by Martyr, right?
That alone proves nothing about the righteousness of these churches.
If you don't like Protestant mega churches or Christian concerts, say so and give reasons why.
I'm not even necessarily disagreeing with you, but just saying you took a huge logic leap between your presented evidence and your conclusion.
You do realize that most Protestant churches practice The Lord's Supper in a way very similar to that discussed by Martyr, right?
That alone proves nothing about the righteousness of these churches.
If you don't like Protestant mega churches or Christian concerts, say so and give reasons why.
I'm not even necessarily disagreeing with you, but just saying you took a huge logic leap between your presented evidence and your conclusion.
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