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Our stock market crashing probably emboldens other countries to play chicken on tariffs
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:43 pm
The countries that have been totally F'ing us over will probably come to the table soon because they know that they have been getting away with murder.
But a lot of other countries are probably feeling more emboldened to play hardball after watching our stock market dropping like a rock the last two days.
Makes for a difficult investing environment when you're just a tweet/trade deal away from a face ripping rally.
But if other countries play hardball, and Trump refuses to budge, the last two days market crash will end up looking like a picnic.
We live in interesting times.
But a lot of other countries are probably feeling more emboldened to play hardball after watching our stock market dropping like a rock the last two days.
Makes for a difficult investing environment when you're just a tweet/trade deal away from a face ripping rally.
But if other countries play hardball, and Trump refuses to budge, the last two days market crash will end up looking like a picnic.
We live in interesting times.
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:45 pm to Atomic Elbow
They can’t afford to play hardball.
Also it would be dumb to be the last country to make a deal with Trump.
Also it would be dumb to be the last country to make a deal with Trump.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:47 pm to Atomic Elbow
Check out theirs. Just remember, you don't lose until you sell.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:48 pm to Atomic Elbow
I really attribute a lot of the crash to how badly the rollout was executed from the incorrect tariff numbers on the chart (97% tariffs for some countries isnt even remotely believable) to the 40+% tariffs.
I think if we had dropped 15% tariffs or even 20% tariffs worldwide the crash wouldve only been about half as bad.
I think if we had dropped 15% tariffs or even 20% tariffs worldwide the crash wouldve only been about half as bad.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:48 pm to Atomic Elbow
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:54 pm to cajuntiger1010
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They can’t afford to play hardball.
Also it would be dumb to be the last country to make a deal with Trump.
They have been screwing us over on tariffs for a long time.
They will take a real hit if they renegotiate.
The deals need to be renegotiated, but they won't go gently into the night.
They are kind of like Ex-Wives who don't want to renegotiate their ridiculously high Alimony/Child Support when their Ex-Husband gets a pay cut.
They don't care about fair, they just want to keep screwing us over.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:56 pm to SmackoverHawg
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Check out theirs. Just remember, you don't lose until you sell.
I'm fine.
I sold everything and went 100% cash Tuesday.
No way in hell I was going to be long on Tariff Night in case he went bigger than people expected.
Glad I did.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:59 pm to Atomic Elbow
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They have been screwing us over on tariffs for a long time. They will take a real hit if they renegotiate
They will take an even larger hit if they don’t negotiate.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:00 pm to Corinthians420
The market always takes a dive when there is ALOT of confusion in the market.
It was time to rip the bandage off and go full speed at this thing. It was going to negatively impact the market either way. So why delay the inevitable? It allows us to rebound quicker knowing what’s what moving forward and as deals process with countries who send certain businesses inventory, they are the first to see green again.
It might take 6 months or a 1 year to see some normalcy for some businesses to recover but most will.
Time to buy if you have the liquid.
It was time to rip the bandage off and go full speed at this thing. It was going to negatively impact the market either way. So why delay the inevitable? It allows us to rebound quicker knowing what’s what moving forward and as deals process with countries who send certain businesses inventory, they are the first to see green again.
It might take 6 months or a 1 year to see some normalcy for some businesses to recover but most will.
Time to buy if you have the liquid.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:02 pm to cajuntiger1010
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They will take an even larger hit if they don’t negotiate.
I agree.
Just saying that after the Dow dropping 4k in two days that they might be sitting back and wondering just how far Trump is willing to let the market fall before he backs down.
It's a negotiation, a game of chicken.
I mean if both sides don't budge the Dow could be down another 5 or 10k by the End of Month.
I mean it's dropped 4k in two days.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:04 pm to Atomic Elbow
6 posts of bullshite! Lol
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:04 pm to Atomic Elbow
I’m guessing the left has steeled Trump into not giving many fricks about his approval rating or what is said in the media.
I feel certain he can hold out longer than they can.
I feel certain he can hold out longer than they can.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:04 pm to Morpheus
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It was time to rip the bandage off and go full speed at this thing. It was going to negatively impact the market either way. So why delay the inevitable?
Im not saying we should have delayed. Im saying we shouldve put the actual tariffs on the chart and responded with actual reciprocal tariffs of equal or even higher value.
A lot of the confusion stems from stuff like the chart saying Switzerland had a 61% tariff on the US when that isnt true.
Less confusion wouldve led to a softer crash and potentially a higher floor.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:05 pm to Atomic Elbow
Thank You Einstein.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:06 pm to Atomic Elbow
Countries that rely on the us consumer to survive?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:07 pm to Jbird
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6 posts of bullshite! Lol
Moron.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:08 pm to Atomic Elbow
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Our stock market crashing probably emboldens other countries to play chicken on tariffs
Take a look at the DAX or STOXX600 and get back to me.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:09 pm to Robin Masters
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This post was edited on 5/2/25 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:10 pm to Atomic Elbow
We’ve had at least three trillion dollars of market capitalization evaporate due to the administration’s chaotic policies. If you think that we can continue on that path, you are truly in a cult.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:10 pm to KingOrange
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Thank You Einstein.
People like you make me look like Einstein.
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