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SECDEF signing memo making fitness standards the same in combat roles for both sexes

Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:02 am
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:02 am
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:18 am to
Activist judge injunction in 3, 2, 1
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:19 am to
Good.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:20 am to
This is great! I mean, we all want equality, right?
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:20 am to
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Activist judge injunction in 3, 2, 1


Resident lawyers defending it in 3, 2, 1
Posted by cajuntiger1010
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:22 am to
Good. 8 or so years ago, A female running a 18 minute 2 mile, 10 pushups, 20 situps earns more promotion points than a male running a 13:30 two mile, 70 pushups, 70 situps. I always thought it was bullshite because it directly affects promotion up to E6
Posted by HeadCall
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:23 am to
It’s silly enough as it is that we even let women in the military to begin with. But to give them lower standards is just ridiculous.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:26 am to
This is great.

Women shouldn't be in combat roles, this adjustment will make sure only the burliest ladies, the most competent ladies even get the chance- and having earned the combat role, will be less of a drag on their male counterparts than they were before.

Won't completely eliminate the drag, but will certainly greatly reduce it.
Posted by Furious
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:28 am to
Common sense leadership. It is about damn time.
Posted by Tantal
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:28 am to
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Activist judge injunction in 3, 2, 1

Well, at least we know what Boasberg will be doing with his day.
Posted by Morpheus
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:32 am to
This should never have been a question and or implemented.

Soldiers lives are on the line and that should be the ultimate price you pay if you place unfit “people” in roles they just aren’t physically built for.

I’ve seen Tulsi on film doing her thing and while seemingly a “badass” for a woman, she would place in the bottom 5-10% of men if she went head to head in a live field training session.

Support roles and intelligence I’m fine with, but people need to know they can trust who has their 6 at all times without hesitation in the field.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:50 am to
Let the screaming, crying and gnashing of teeth begin!
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:55 am to
G.I. Jane remake.
Posted by UcobiaA
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:59 am to
Milley tried to make a PT test with the same standards and it failed. Well, the women failed. Maybe this will stop these women going to ranger school and selection and getting endless recycles.
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 2:55 pm
Posted by POTUS2024
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 10:22 am to
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women going to ranger school

Watched some videos on this. I'm not sure any of those ranger tabs are legit. There was special treatment the whole way and log books are missing. It's pretty shady.
Posted by Mr Breeze
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 11:01 am to
Women simply don’t have the upper body strength and endurance to help the Marine grunt on the ground when the shite hits the fan after days on patrol or recon.

Support roles in the rear with the gear, fine, but combat action no way they can physically have my six. It’s not possible by any objective standards.
Posted by prouddawg
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 11:03 am to
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Activist judge injunction in 3, 2, 1


He/she/it or whoever can F right off too.
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 11:04 am
Posted by Lakeboy7
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 11:06 am to
I know I got the group text on Signal from Drunk Pete this morning.
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 11:23 am to
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It’s silly enough as it is that we even let women in the military to begin with. But to give them lower standards is just ridiculous


I have no problem with females in the military, just not in combat., which is what the OP is about.
Equal fitness standards for bith sexes in combat roles.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 11:25 am to
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I have no problem with females in the military, just not in combat., which is what the OP is about.


The problems that come with a mixed gender military actually have very little to do with the physical limitations of females.

quote:

Equal fitness standards for bith sexes in combat roles.


Why not equal fitness standards for both sexes in non-combat roles?
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