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John Boyega is upset with Star Wars fans
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:52 am
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:52 am
Does Boyega have a point?
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The actor behind ex-stormtrooper Finn railed against viewers of the sci-fi saga who can't accept diverse casting during an appearance in the new documentary Number One on the Call Sheet: Black Leading Men in Hollywood. "Lemme tell ya, Star Wars always had the vibe of being in the most whitest, elite space," Boyega said. "It's a franchise that's so white that a Black person existing in [it] was something."
Boyega went on to explain the inherent problems with the Star Wars films (and fans) making a big deal out of the incredibly small handful of Black characters. "You can always tell it's something when some Star Wars fans try to say, 'Well, we had Lando Calrissian and had Samuel L. Jackson!'" he said. "It's like telling me how many cookie chips are in the cookie dough. It's like, they just scattered that in there, bro!"
The They Cloned Tyrone star went on to criticize certain fans' inability to accept Black actors in leading roles. "They're okay with us playing the best friend, but once we touch their heroes, once we lead, once we trailblaze, it's like, 'Oh my God, it's just a bit too much! They're pandering!'"
Boyega has previously criticized the franchise's handling of his character, who was initially positioned as a co-lead in The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, but subsequently had a less important role in The Rise of Skywalker. "What I would say to Disney is do not bring out a Black character, market them to be much more important in the franchise than they are and then have them pushed to the side. It's not good,"
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:57 am to RLDSC FAN
Guess no one ever told him about that Lando guy
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:00 am to RLDSC FAN
Glad that they reported this so that the white people that will never watch this documentary series can get upset over it.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:01 am to RLDSC FAN
That trilogy had much worse problems than Finn, does anyone even care about his character besides the Chinese?
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 9:02 am
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:04 am to Dam Guide
I think he's still really bitter about the whole experience. He was one of the leads in TFA, but his character became less and less important
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:06 am to Dam Guide
quote:I can't tell you anything that happened in those films past the release of the third prequel. And I'm pretty sure that I've seen them twice.
That trilogy had much worse problems than Finn, does anyone even care about his character besides the Chinese?
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:07 am to RLDSC FAN
It's almost like the franchise was created by a white guy in a predominately white country.
Are there too many Japanese people in Japanese movies?
Are there too many Japanese people in Japanese movies?
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:08 am to RLDSC FAN
He had arguably the most interesting initial story from the first half of TFA. Seems like most people had a stronger opinion on how Disney dropped the ball with his and maybe Poe’s characters.
The only time I’ve ever really read about an unpopular black character was the acolyte. I always thought the real backlash was against the writing itself and bastardizing of Luke.
The only time I’ve ever really read about an unpopular black character was the acolyte. I always thought the real backlash was against the writing itself and bastardizing of Luke.
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 9:10 am
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:09 am to RLDSC FAN
Diversity for diversity's sake is the issue.
Well written (and acted) characters that make sense to the story (in the movie, and in the greater universe) will always be accepted.
Well written (and acted) characters that make sense to the story (in the movie, and in the greater universe) will always be accepted.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:10 am to udtiger
He needs to realize that there's a group of SW fans that liked Finn in TFA and saw some real possibilities were pissed with what they did to the character in the subsequent movies.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:11 am to St Augustine
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He had arguably the most interesting initial story from the first half of TFA. Seems like most people had a stronger opinion on how Disney dropped the ball with his and maybe Poe’s characters.
Agreed. TBF to Boyega, he did get a lot of shite when the very first trailer showed him in a stormtroopers outfit.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:16 am to RLDSC FAN
He might be too stupid to realize that most Star Wars fans actually liked his character and it's potential, and were angry at the direction the idiot writers/director took with his character. No one gave a shite that he was black.
I do'nt know or care what nationality Diego Luna is, and Jyn Erso was a great character who was very well written. Maybe just make a good movie and no one gives a shite if this person is black or white or asiain or hispanic or a woman.
I do'nt know or care what nationality Diego Luna is, and Jyn Erso was a great character who was very well written. Maybe just make a good movie and no one gives a shite if this person is black or white or asiain or hispanic or a woman.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:24 am to TeddyPadillac
Diego Luna is Mexican and speaks English about as well as Salma Hayek. And I don’t care because the vehicles he’s been in have been really really good.
Boyega needs to point his frustration at the Chinese and Chinese market. That’s where the racism he’s talking about really is.
Boyega needs to point his frustration at the Chinese and Chinese market. That’s where the racism he’s talking about really is.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:26 am to RLDSC FAN
I don't know how many times we have to go through this
It's not that a black character in the lead is the problem. Many of us thought Finn was a cool character when we thought they were going to take him from being a stormtrooper to a jedi. But then they made him a total bitch.
It's like the character of Holdo. A woman leading isn't a problem. People love Leia as a leader on the political side with Luke taking the Jedi stuff. The problem is when that character is magically Leia's best friend even though she's never mentioned, then magically leading the rebellion over Ackbar, and talking down to the "flyboy" that is single handedly killing squads of tie fighters.
It's just shitty writing and people refuse to acknowledge it.
It's not that a black character in the lead is the problem. Many of us thought Finn was a cool character when we thought they were going to take him from being a stormtrooper to a jedi. But then they made him a total bitch.
It's like the character of Holdo. A woman leading isn't a problem. People love Leia as a leader on the political side with Luke taking the Jedi stuff. The problem is when that character is magically Leia's best friend even though she's never mentioned, then magically leading the rebellion over Ackbar, and talking down to the "flyboy" that is single handedly killing squads of tie fighters.
It's just shitty writing and people refuse to acknowledge it.
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 9:27 am
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:28 am to RLDSC FAN
No one, least of all Star Wars fans, gives a crap what color a character is, or whether they are human, alien, or a droid.
What they did care about in the sequel trilogy were ridiculous missteps that failed to satisfy established fans and potential new audiences alike. Those particular mistakes have been discussed ad nauseum.
Boyega is right to be angry with his experience playing the character and with the direction of the franchise… but his anger is misplaced. The fault lies with the people who made these films, who cared more about putting their own personal signature on Star Wars instead of helping Star Wars entertain people with its proven formula rooted in fun, likeability, and spectacle.
What they did care about in the sequel trilogy were ridiculous missteps that failed to satisfy established fans and potential new audiences alike. Those particular mistakes have been discussed ad nauseum.
Boyega is right to be angry with his experience playing the character and with the direction of the franchise… but his anger is misplaced. The fault lies with the people who made these films, who cared more about putting their own personal signature on Star Wars instead of helping Star Wars entertain people with its proven formula rooted in fun, likeability, and spectacle.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:32 am to RLDSC FAN
the actor and character were both terrible. at least lando and the actor were interesting. samual jackson was awful butv at least his character was decent.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:33 am to RLDSC FAN
Star Wars fans going way back to the 70s were a very open and accepting group of people.
Boyega sucked as an actor in the sequels. Was it his acting or bad writing? Probably both, but he was no Billy Dee and it showed. No excellent writing would mask his generic vibe, as he lacked the cool vibe. Billy Dee had it, Harrison Ford had it, Carrie Fisher had it.
Hayden Christian was equally horrible in the prequels, he was a white version Boyega in lacking coolness and just generic at the time.
Making Finn black was a blatant DEI move by Disney, which would have been fine if they pulled off the right actor. Imagine if when pulled his helmet off it was
Chadwick Boseman - Bad arse
Giacarlo Espisito - might have still been too old
Lance Reddick - maybe too sophisticated for a Stormtrooper
Daniel Kaluuya - Unknown at time of sequels
Anthony Mackie - Maybe that would have fixed Marvel
Donald Glover - Instead of young Lando, but he was a great Lando
Tyrese Gibson - Fast and Furious probably makes him too famous
LaVar Burton - Would have actually melted the internet with controversy and rage
John David Washington - Has that Denzel lineage of coolness
Jonathan Majors - Maybe Kang does not happen then
Lastly and why not
Idris Elba - Black James Bond
There were so many better options to make Finn awesome.
Boyega sucked as an actor in the sequels. Was it his acting or bad writing? Probably both, but he was no Billy Dee and it showed. No excellent writing would mask his generic vibe, as he lacked the cool vibe. Billy Dee had it, Harrison Ford had it, Carrie Fisher had it.
Hayden Christian was equally horrible in the prequels, he was a white version Boyega in lacking coolness and just generic at the time.
Making Finn black was a blatant DEI move by Disney, which would have been fine if they pulled off the right actor. Imagine if when pulled his helmet off it was
Chadwick Boseman - Bad arse
Giacarlo Espisito - might have still been too old
Lance Reddick - maybe too sophisticated for a Stormtrooper
Daniel Kaluuya - Unknown at time of sequels
Anthony Mackie - Maybe that would have fixed Marvel
Donald Glover - Instead of young Lando, but he was a great Lando
Tyrese Gibson - Fast and Furious probably makes him too famous
LaVar Burton - Would have actually melted the internet with controversy and rage
John David Washington - Has that Denzel lineage of coolness
Jonathan Majors - Maybe Kang does not happen then
Lastly and why not
Idris Elba - Black James Bond
There were so many better options to make Finn awesome.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:33 am to RLDSC FAN
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"What I would say to Disney is do not bring out a Black character, market them to be much more important in the franchise than they are and then have them pushed to the side. It's not good,"
This is what he's really upset about.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:37 am to RLDSC FAN
I thought R2D2 was a brother
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:43 am to RLDSC FAN
When I think of all the problems fans had with these films, I just don’t remember people being up in arms about black actors. Like at all. I mean if you want to make the case for gender bias against Rey, which I’m not sure is the case either, at least I can understand where that’s coming from. But as far as black actors in Star Wara being a point of contention, I just don’t see it, but maybe I’m wrong.
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