Opinion on SeatGeek

Never had a problem with any aftermarket seller other than paying way above ticket price.

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loyal to Ticketmaster

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a phrase I never expected to read

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a phrase I never expected to read

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I thought the exact same thing..

If you can get $180 for floor at a Metallica show in 2025, get it. Have you looked at the same price for other shows? That is as low as you are going to get. By a long shot.

I’ve had good luck with Seat Geek. On all of those resale sites though the ticket price is one component but the fees attached to that price is where they can get you.

We lost tickets to a show when they were never transferred. I'll never use them again.

If it seems to good to be true it probably is. At that low a price, I bet your seller has the ticks listed on several sites and is fishing for the best bid.

That before fees? If not, it’s probably an extra hundred dollars on top of that.

For those who dare not venture to the OT:

CBS report on ticket price increases, Ticketmaster/LiveNation monopoly, and scalpers

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* The rock band Something Corporate played a show in Los Angeles with tickets set by the band at $56. Out of the $200,000 in ticket sales, 50% goes to the venue, the band's management takes a quarter, travel/crew cost takes another quarter, they get none of the fees. The band makes about $10 per ticket, split 5 ways among the members.

* Ticket fees were introduced in the 1980s by the CEO of Ticketmaster after artists started asking for a bigger cut of the show's revenue. Because TM let the venues keep most of the fees, most of the big venues signed on with TM so they won exclusive control of all tickets.

* Since TM merged with LiveNation in 2010, some venues are complaining that TM is more concerned with helping LiveNation than any other venues. "We can't compete," said the Executive Director of the National Independent Venue Association. He says LiveNation uses its power across the industry to "strangle the competition." Basically making it so artists have to play all their shows at LiveNation venues.

* Anti-trust lawyer for TM/LN says any lawsuit against them is "performative" and will have no effect on ticket prices. Says people are jealous and scared of them, and that TM/LN is "100% for the artists and fans."

* Scalping company called "Elite" is starting to franchise their business to other scalpers. One broker made $34,000 in one month from scalping tickets online. Another broker got 4 tickets to a Taylor Swift show in Miami and made $10,000 off of them. "The market is the market, the prices are the prices."

* Scalpers sign up for artist and venue presales, get the codes, and get as many tickets as they can before they go on sale to the general public.

* Elite has a web plug-in that shows how many seats are available in each section to determine how many to buy. PrimoBrowser is their plug-in of choice, $250/month, which helps mask IPs and log in to many TM accounts to avoid caps on how many tickets they can buy. PrimoBrowser is only available to ticket brokers.

* President Trump has demanded the FTC to start enforcing the "bots act", which has only been enforced once since it was established.

* TM claims it "regularly" defends itself against millions and millions of bots and believes 99.9% of their tickets go to fans.

* StubHub CFO says StubHub has "democratized" the secondary ticket buying process and made it more efficient. They have partnered with brokers like Elite and charge them low fees to list.

* StubHub has offered artists the chance to get in on the money if StubHub is allowed to become a ticket partner with the artist.

* TM says they support any legislation to curtail scalping, saying it's "not beneficial" to anyone, and "a ripoff."

Anyway, pretty interesting video overall. Especially for those of us who have been fighting with TM for years.

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credit to Kinderman