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Trump announces "productive" phone call with Canada's PM Mark Carney

Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:28 pm
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:28 pm

Wow. After all the shite talking this idiot from Canada has done, Trump is still willing to deal with him. Trump sure isn't very good at being a dictator!


Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
4520 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:34 pm to
Everything this Mark Carney dude does is like a montage of deleted scenes from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

What an idiot.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75091 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:35 pm to
Carney is a central bank patsy.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11359 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:57 pm to
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Wow. After all the shite talking this idiot from Canada has done, Trump is still willing to deal with him. Trump sure isn't very good at being a dictator!



Carney's speech yesterday was full of the subtext of "we are going to reorient our economy and alliances [likely to China]" and the state department read it lima charlie.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
8409 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:29 pm to
I’d love to know who initiated the call. As if I have to guess.

To Trump, this is all part of the process.
Posted by rickyb223
In your walls
Member since Jan 2025
430 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:31 pm to
I’m beginning to think all this tariff talk is just market manipulation for his inner circle to make money on options trades.

Have no doubt the market will go up on this news, even if it turns out to be BS.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:33 pm to
They should get back on Signal and discuss plans to destroy Canada's military.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2175 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:34 pm to
This tells me Carney caved to Trumps demands.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:35 pm to
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Sitting down to pee is easier and it makes you an ally to women. Be queen, sit to pee!


Shut up, pfag.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20283 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:36 pm to
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Carney's speech yesterday was full of the subtext of "we are going to reorient our economy and alliances [likely to China]" and the state department read it lima charlie.

Canada might have to learn a hard lesson as to exactly how much Chinese influence a Trump WH will allow on our borders.

Hint: it’s close to zero.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22465 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:27 pm to
you need to call your therapist. It's time to adjust your dosage.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11359 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:32 pm to
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Canada might have to learn a hard lesson as to exactly how much Chinese influence a Trump WH will allow on our borders.

Hint: it’s close to zero.


What's he going to do about it when he's already played a strong opening hand? There's not much more to do other than acts of war.

I don't think the US wants to do that because I get a feeling things would spiral into WWIII because we've alienated so many of our allies over the last decade that I don't think such an action could be appeased. Especially considering that it would be after China entered into some trade agreements with Canada to pull them into their financial orbit.

If we don't want to buy Canada's goods then we gotta be okay with them selling it to people we don't like or change our trade positions.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20283 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:40 pm to
Canada can trade with China, that’s not my point.

My point is that if Canada allows Chinese troops, signs a defense agreement with China or becomes a puppet state via debt slavery like we’ve seen with African nations we won’t stand by and watch that.

And to be clear there’s nothing anyone in Europe is going to do to prevent it if we have to go that path.

Canada can be neutral, they can’t be a puppet regime for our global enemy (their words not mine).
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8196 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:44 pm to
"Will be meeting after the upcoming election..."

Trump really seems to prefer Carney to Poilierve. What did Poilierve due to anger Trump?

Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11359 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:44 pm to
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Canada can trade with China, that’s not my point.

My point is that if Canada allows Chinese troops, signs a defense agreement with China or becomes a puppet state via debt slavery like we’ve seen with African nations we won’t stand by and watch that.

And to be clear there’s nothing anyone in Europe is going to do to prevent it if we have to go that path.

Canada can be neutral, they can’t be a puppet regime for our global enemy (their words not mine).


Agree, however I bet our state department (regardless of party in control) will willingly misconstrue things to war hawk.
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
974 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:50 pm to
Trump cant have it both ways.

Cant insult your neighbor and declare you want to annex their country and tariff them by going back on a deal you negotiated. They will go to China to spite us.

the Canada Liberal Party was brought back from the dead, down 40 points in polling, because of this. Of course, they're continue to go down the path off waning off US partnership by talking to China

Liberals would love if Trump tries to intervene
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7889 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

My point is that if Canada allows Chinese troops, signs a defense agreement with China or becomes a puppet state via debt slaver


I will bet you anything you would like to bet that within my lifetime you will never see a chinese troop on canadian soil.

Quit watching the wolverine movies...sheesh.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20283 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

Trump cant have it both ways. Cant insult your neighbor and declare you want to annex their country and tariff them by going back on a deal you negotiated. They will go to China to spite us.

I actually agree.

I’m sure he has an endgame in mind with this, but I have to admit I don’t quite see it yet though although I agree 100% that we need trade equity with our partners.

And if they aren’t willing to allow fair trade we aren’t really allies anyway.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20283 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

I will bet you anything you would like to bet that within my lifetime you will never see a chinese troop on canadian soil.

You sure you want that bet?

Army pencil - what is the Chinese army doing in Canada
CBC - Canada Military ties to China

-Full military base in Calgary since 2017
-joint training centers in 5 provinces
-13000 full time army personnel in Canada as of 2023
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 9:05 pm
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11359 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:15 pm to
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Trump cant have it both ways.

Cant insult your neighbor and declare you want to annex their country and tariff them by going back on a deal you negotiated. They will go to China to spite us.

the Canada Liberal Party was brought back from the dead, down 40 points in polling, because of this. Of course, they're continue to go down the path off waning off US partnership by talking to China

Liberals would love if Trump tries to intervene


And this is part of the rub I see with the GOP platform that came out of the convention.

One of the planks was explicitly saying they want to maintain the USD as the global reserve currency.

However these protection systems of tariffs actively encourages a scenario where our closest allies and trade partners have incentives to move away from the dollar and into the orbit of the Chinese financial system since their growing middle class will become the dumping ground for excess production much like ours has been for the rest of the world since the end of WWII. China is quickly becoming like the United States where they have unique manufacturing and technological superiorities that countries want to import combined with a robust middle class that countries want to export to reach.

And if that happens, it will be the final nail in the coffin of the US middle class standard of living we've all become accustomed to enjoy. Our place as the global reserve currency typically puts us in a position where our inflationary trends are always less than the rest of the world. Think it has been bad here? Go take a survey of everywhere else but China since COVID. Our place in the global financial system and cheap foreign goods are the only reason the end of the Bretton Woods System in the late 1960s didn't hurt us more than it did (and it hurt us pretty damn badly in the 1970s).

There is something to be said for what is going on in this graph:



Almost everything that has gotten cheaper has been imported. Almost everything that has gotten more expensive has a gradient from "somewhat imported" on the low end to "cannot be imported at all" on the high end. I struggle to understand how pushing trade partners and allies away from the dollar and cutting off the only things that have stayed affordable is going to help a damn thing.
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