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Give these young pitchers time to find their bearings...
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:07 pm
I'm the one who got crucified because I had a fairly obvious (to me, at least) that our bullpen was not performing at a high level, other than Cowan and Evans. I didn't think that was all that controversial.
My take was then and now that these young guys just need to go through the process of learning to come into an SEC game and block out the noise and pitch up to their ability.
All of the guys catching flack have the ability and they dont need to be perfect. A couple of them will gain some confidence and show the ability to do that before the end of the year.
We have plenty of guys who can come on while we have an 8 run lead and not give up a 9 run jack. What we need is for these guys to be able to come into a tie game with an RISP and keep their heart rate down and execute.
This will happen with a couple of guys before the tourney. All we really need is 3 starters, a couple of short relievers, and and about 3 inning eaters. Everyone else is midweek, situational, or to be used when the game is out of hand By my math, we are a couple of middle relievers from having a really solid staff, once Guidry gets back.
If 2-3 of the following can get past the yips: Ware, Williams, Rizy, Schmidt, Benge, or Noot, we could be in a great position.
Relax and enjoy the process. We didn't win our 4th SEC game until the SIXTH weekend of conference play, so we're WAY ahead of last year.
My take was then and now that these young guys just need to go through the process of learning to come into an SEC game and block out the noise and pitch up to their ability.
All of the guys catching flack have the ability and they dont need to be perfect. A couple of them will gain some confidence and show the ability to do that before the end of the year.
We have plenty of guys who can come on while we have an 8 run lead and not give up a 9 run jack. What we need is for these guys to be able to come into a tie game with an RISP and keep their heart rate down and execute.
This will happen with a couple of guys before the tourney. All we really need is 3 starters, a couple of short relievers, and and about 3 inning eaters. Everyone else is midweek, situational, or to be used when the game is out of hand By my math, we are a couple of middle relievers from having a really solid staff, once Guidry gets back.
If 2-3 of the following can get past the yips: Ware, Williams, Rizy, Schmidt, Benge, or Noot, we could be in a great position.
Relax and enjoy the process. We didn't win our 4th SEC game until the SIXTH weekend of conference play, so we're WAY ahead of last year.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 2:08 pm
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:08 pm to Jax-Tiger
No fricking way bro this team should have gone undefeated in SEC play! The coaches suck! The players suck! Yeskie sucks! The commentators on TV suck! And fire that POS Woodward so we can go back to being undefeated in everything!!!!!
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:08 pm to Jax-Tiger
My main gripe is why do Jay's teams have this issue consitently? To Jay's credit, his teams have figured it out down the stretch heading into post season play each year but its frustrating to have the same issue with relievers not being able to throw strikes at the start of conference play every year.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:09 pm to TheRouxGuru
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we can go back to being undefeated in
Damn. I miss those years...
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:12 pm to Jax-Tiger
Didn’t look like Texas freshman pitchers had any trouble. So if our guys aren’t ready in time then that falls on 2 people in the dugout. Guess which 2 ?
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:15 pm to supersaints9
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So if our guys aren’t ready in time then that falls on 2 people in the dugout. Guess which 2 ?
Don’t forget the clown that hired those other clowns!!!!! Fire Woodward!!!!
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:16 pm to Jax-Tiger
One thing I will say is Texas was insanely timely on hits. They had a ton of weak contact that turned to hits, and it seemed like it was always with runners on. The walks shot us in the foot, but we had a ton of bad luck to go with that.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:17 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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My main gripe is why do Jay's teams have this issue consitently?
In his defense, we aren't the only ones with that issue. It just seems like it, because we watch every pitch of all of our games.
The guys that throw mid-90s in the zone ss freshmen are rare, and the ones that figure it out get drafted. Our best pitchers for the last few years have been transfers who went through their growing pains elsewhere. They come in, have a great year, and get drafted. We don't have the luxury of having a stud pitcher for 3 years. So we're gonna do this again next year.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:18 pm to TheRouxGuru
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Don’t forget the clown that hired those other clowns!!!!!
So you think Jay is a clown?
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:19 pm to Jax-Tiger
I'm going to do my best to stay patient. I just don't know what he sees in Yeskie. Our pitchers' mechanics are awful. That's all I'll say. Aggie was ecstatic when we took him off their hands.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:19 pm to supersaints9
No silly goose, I’m making fun of this board for how it acted at the end of basketball season and after the series with Texas
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:22 pm to Tigerfan14
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One thing I will say is Texas was insanely timely on hits.
Good point. That's part of being a good pitcher is to shake those bad breaks off and go out and get the next hitter.
How often do you see a pitcher get the first two hitters in an inning out and then give up a bloop single followed by a walk and a couple more hits? One pitch away from a 1,2,3 inning turns into a crooked number. Seems to happen a least once a game.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:23 pm to supersaints9
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Didn’t look like Texas freshman pitchers had any trouble. So if our guys aren’t ready in time then that falls on 2 people in the dugout. Guess which 2 ?
serious question, please answer honestly….
Outside of LSU, how many college baseball games have you watched this year? Last year?
I feel like a lot of you guys simply compare LSU to your imaginary idea of perfection that’s in your head. Yall do know that other teams go through these types of growing pains right? This ain’t a problem that ONLY hits LSU
I feel like a little perception would help out a lot of you early season baseball fans
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:26 pm to Tigerfan14
I also wonder how many of those hits would have been hits on grass instead of that turf shite
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:27 pm to Tigerfan14
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One thing I will say is Texas was insanely timely on hits. They had a ton of weak contact that turned to hits, and it seemed like it was always with runners on. The walks shot us in the foot, but we had a ton of bad luck to go with that.
The umpire extending the UT lefty’s strike zone to the top of the helmet and the opposite batters box didn’t help
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:35 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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My main gripe is why do Jay's teams have this issue consistently?
To kinda fill-in the picture . . .
In his first year, we were lean on pitching talent. CPM left Jay a gold mine in the field and a dumpster fire on the mound.
In year2, looking for 3 new starters. Skenes exploded, Ty finally find some off-speed, after CJJ jettisoned the Cooper as a starter, Riley was solid. Herring and Guidry found their roles. But along the way Shores and Edwards go down and Coleman never regained form.
Last year: again looking for 3 new starters (although Hurd should've been one).
Now: once again looking for 3 new starters.
In summary, pitching has been an odyssey since CJJ has been here because apart from Hurd last year, we haven't had a single starting pitcher return for another season.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:38 pm to AlwysATgr
No way bro this is all yeskie’s fault!
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:40 pm to Imber
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I just don't know what he sees in Yeskie. Our pitchers' mechanics are awful. That's all I'll say. Aggie was ecstatic when we took him off their hands.
Pitching coaches in baseball are like OCs in football. Yeskie has a pretty good track record. Our staff is deep on potential; lean on experience.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:40 pm to supersaints9
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Didn’t look like Texas freshman pitchers had any trouble.
Texas pitched exactly ONE freshman pitcher against us. Dylan Volantis. He looked great.
We pitched 4 freshman against them, and one of them was outstanding (Evans). So both teams had one outstanding freshman pitcher. By the end of the year, the other freshmen will be better, for having gone through what they did in the series against Texas.
Texas has a bunch of freshmen that they didn't use at all. We're 22-3 and have used a bunch of freshmen in high leverage situations. We're good enough to do that. That will help us later, and into next year.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:54 pm to AlwysATgr
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In summary, pitching has been an odyssey since CJJ has been here because apart from Hurd last year, we haven't had a single starting pitcher return for another season.
It's probably going to happen again, next year - all three starters will be gone. Evans and maybe one other guy will move into the starting roles, in all likelihood. Fortunately, we're LSU, and have JJ has our coach. He will go find the best people in the portal and go sell them on the idea of being a starter for LSU. It's worked the last couple of years.
You know what a 3 year starter looks like? It looks like Jared Poche. Crafty, throws strikes, but does not have MLB stuff. I loved Poche, but I don't want him has my Friday night starter. I want him there on Saturday/Sunday, for sure, though.
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