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st George Mayor race. Who we got?

Posted on 3/13/25 at 8:22 am
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
42964 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 8:22 am
I only see 2 fellas running. Jim Morgan and Dustin Yates.

They tell me Yates is the current interim mayor. That’s all I got.

Any insight on these guys? Yates is definitely winning in the yard sign department.

I’m for anyone that will raise the speed limit on Bluebonnet to 40 in the neighborhood area and 50 once you pass Harveston.
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 8:24 am
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9235 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 8:43 am to
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Dustin Yates.



He was one of the main organizers of the St. George movement. He has my vote.

But... He kind of pissed me off with the way the mayor's and police chief's salary "negotiations" went down. The mayor will be $160,000, and the full-time police chief's salary will be $140,000.

The mayor of St. George is being set up as a figurehead and will not have the same responsibilities as the mayor/president of Baton Rouge, yet the salary is in line with what Sid Edwards makes.

The police chief is a glorified liaison between EBRSO and St. George and is only in the spot because it's statutorily required. $140,000 is way too much for that role. It is in line with the city of BR police chief, except they actually have to run a police department.
Posted by Yaboylsu63
Member since Mar 2014
3209 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 8:46 am to
While it may not be clearly expressed, are we hoping the STG police chief to be more or less a lobbyist to EBRSO to best serve this area?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41745 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 8:54 am to


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But... He kind of pissed me off with the way the mayor's and police chief's salary "negotiations" went down. The mayor will be $160,000, and the full-time police chief's salary will be $140,000. The mayor of St. George is being set up as a figurehead and will not have the same responsibilities as the mayor/president of Baton Rouge, yet the salary is in line with what Sid Edwards makes. The police chief is a glorified liaison between EBRSO and St. George and is only in the spot because it's statutorily required. $140,000 is way too much for that role. It is in line with the city of BR police chief, except they actually have to run a police department.


We need a reset. Things are going the wrong way. Instead of the Centrsl model they are inventing a new model with a bunch of layers.

Keep in mind the City of St George won’t be responsible for schools, libraries, parks, EMS, the sewer system, utilities, the transit system, and the mayor won’t be responsible for the few city cops.

We need a mayor to oversee the work of the company managing city services. There shouldn’t be a large bureaucracy. We don’t want that.

We need someone that can sell SG to prospective businesses. A sort of Chamber of Commerce type.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41745 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 8:56 am to
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While it may not be clearly expressed, are we hoping the STG police chief to be more or less a lobbyist to EBRSO to best serve this area?


What does the Central PD do?
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9235 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:03 am to
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What does the Central PD do?


Central actually has officers. Our plan is to only have a chief and use the EBRSO (who already patrols the area and does a good job) to continue patrol. Although there is some talk in paying extra so that the EBRSO can hire more deputies for even better coverage.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7617 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:04 am to
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He kind of pissed me off with the way the mayor's and police chief's salary "negotiations" went down. The mayor will be $160,000, and the full-time police chief's salary will be $140,000.


Dustin had no part in the negotiations on salary
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9235 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:20 am to
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Dustin had no part in the negotiations on salary


It was presented to the council by Heck (because it's a council issue), but he was in charge of the transition and is the interim mayor. He absolutely had a hand in the negotiation.

quote:

Yates did not have a vote in deciding salaries Tuesday but endorsed the home rule charter which includes the salaries proposed for mayor, city council and police chief.


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“It's hard to find a comparison because (St. George) is unique,” Mayor Dustin Yates said.
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Though Rials compared St. George to cities with this council-manager form of government, none are an exact match as they don't have a full-time mayor, Yates argues.

“Our proposed Home Rule Charter calls for a full-time mayor. So the full-time mayor position is gonna require a full-time salary,” Yates said.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24493 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:31 am to
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But... He kind of pissed me off with the way the mayor's and police chief's salary "negotiations" went down. The mayor will be $160,000, and the full-time police chief's salary will be $140,000.



I agree. This was my first EXTREME disappointment in St George.

Well, actually my second. Naming Ryan Heck to the interim Metro Council was also total bullshite.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7617 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:12 am to
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Yates did not have a vote in deciding salaries Tuesday but endorsed the home rule charter which includes the salaries proposed for mayor, city council and police chief.


Hell, I endorse the HRC. It doesn't mean I had a hand in the negotiation
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9235 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:20 am to
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Hell, I endorse the HRC. It doesn't mean I had a hand in the negotiation


OK so if the head of the transition district, and then eventual interim mayor did not have a hand in negotiating one of the first major decisions for the new city, then maybe we shouldn't vote for him because he hasn't been involved in decision making.

He couldn't present it to the council or vote on it because it is council business. But the fact that you think Heck just pulled these numbers out of his arse doesn't even make any sense.
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 10:21 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62607 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:26 am to
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What does the Central PD do?


They actually have a police department but used the EBRSO until they were able to establish their own police force. I think St. G is eventually going to have their own PD. However, until then, the Sheriff's Office is doing LE in the city.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11720 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:48 am to
Sign me up for whichever candidate publicly opposes that awful Home Rule Charter.

I feel horrible for the people who worked so hard to form a City to have that as the outcome. It's bloated, inefficient, and nothing more than glorified payoffs. Having a part-time City Council run the legislative and executive branches is just plain wild.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7617 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:35 am to
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Sign me up for whichever candidate publicly opposes that awful Home Rule Charter


Is the HRC perfect? No, but it's a hell of a lot better than being run by the 1898 Lawrason Act. One main reason is that under Lawrason, anytime the People of SG want to change their government, they will have to go before the State Legislature, . Do you remember the shite show that happened when SG bills went before the legislature, and the bills the Legis. tried to file to scuttle the incorporation?. Hell, that's why SG was formed to begin with. We only wanted our own school district, but were told by Sharon Weston Broome et al that we had to become a city first, then when we did that she sued us.

The HRC can be changed, by the people of SG, not the state legislature. It also has to be reassessed every 10 years automatically. It is custom tailored to our needs,
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 11:41 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41745 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:37 pm to
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One main reason is that under Lawrason, anytime the People of SG want to change their government, they will have to go before the State Legislature, .


Did SG go before the legislature to change from the LS to the HRC? I don’t remember that.

Why can’t we do what Central did?

I think we need to start over, We can do something much simpler. Our mayor won’t have the duties of the mayor of Monroe, Lake Charles, Alexandria, NO, etc. Our parish takes care of so much of our government.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7617 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:40 pm to
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Did SG go before the legislature to change from the LS to the HRC? I don’t remember that.


At this time they wouldn't have to since the government is just starting up.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36349 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:04 pm to
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He kind of pissed me off with the way the mayor's and police chief's salary "negotiations" went down. The mayor will be $160,000

Lake Charles' mayor makes something like 142k (probably a bit more now), so 160k for St. George doesn't sound too far off.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11720 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:11 pm to
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No, but it's a hell of a lot better than being run by the 1898 Lawrason Act.


No one said you couldn’t do a HRC. It’s the actual contents of the Charter that are terrible.

It’s a document that reads like a bunch of petulant children might be scared the people would elect a Mayor that disagreed with them.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41745 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:19 pm to
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Lake Charles' mayor makes something like 142k (probably a bit more now), so 160k for St. George doesn't sound too far off.


Please compare the services provided by the city of Lake Charles and the City of SG.

The City of LC provides these services that SG will not provide:
Fire protection
Parks & Recreation
Water
Animal services
Event center
Sanitary sewer
A big police department
Garbage pick up
Public transportation
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