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Oversight finds that former President Biden’s pardons all have the same autopen signatures

Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:32 am
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:32 am
Posted by captainFid
Vestavia, AL
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:37 am to
All I want to know is whether Ja-Biden knew and approved these pardons.

We know Robert Hur didn't want to push for prosecution, in part, because he was feeble. I doubt Biden knew much of what was happening and I wouldn't be surprised if many things 'the committee' did were without the President's knowledge or approval.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:39 am to
General Milleys retirement speech alone: raging on about his Commander-In-Chief DJTrump...

USMJ: ARTICLE 88 CONTEMPT TOWARD OFFICIALS

WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM PUNISHMENT GRANTED UNDER ARTICLE 88?
The person charged under Article 88 shall be dismissed from the armed forces, asked to forfeit all allowances and pay, be confined for one year as maximum punishment.
Posted by Da Sheik
Trump Tower
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:46 am to
The law states the President has to be present at all official signings.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:46 am to
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Speaker Johnson has said he tried to get a meeting with President Biden over Biden's E,O. on LNG affecting his State of Louisiana. Biden's staff denied the Speaker's meeting.

When he was finally allowed, Biden's cabinet officials were all surrounding Biden. Speaker cued a private meeting, and Biden ordered them all to leave...

Biden had no knowledge of the E.O. and denied it existed.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:49 am to
Biden's signature saying he 'stands down' and will not be running for President is said to be a different signature than the autopen signature.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:51 am to
Lots of federal judges lining up to say of course a cold corpse can sign legal documents with an autopen, it's literally in the constitution, right next to open borders and abortions.
Posted by captainFid
Vestavia, AL
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:54 am to
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Speaker Johnson has said he tried to get a meeting with President Biden over Biden's E,O. on LNG affecting his State of Louisiana. Biden's staff denied the Speaker's meeting.

When he was finally allowed, Biden's cabinet officials were all surrounding Biden. Speaker cued a private meeting, and Biden ordered them all to leave...

Biden had no knowledge of the E.O. and denied it existed.

Good catch... and I was thinking of this as well.

I'm certain Biden didn't know.

Unfortuneatly, I'm almost as certain the GOP will have no appetiete for pursuing this.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:54 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:00 am to
Signed in Washington when Biden was on vacation.

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Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:03 am to
Now that's getting sonewhere!
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:18 am to
Nothing like kicking off a Wednesday with a little constitutional crisis.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:19 am to
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Oversight finds that former President Biden’s pardons all have the same autopen signatures
Wow, someone really should look into this.

Maybe start 12th thread about it.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
157276 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:34 am to
Why has no one questioned Speaker Johnson not speaking up in public when this happened?

Did the Speaker even go to the democrats with grave concern?

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Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:48 am to
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Maybe start 12th thread about it.


Sorry someone is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to click on each thread.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:25 am to


Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
7834 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:41 am to
If it is limited to the pardons they MAY have a shot at overturning them, but most of JB's actions were auto pen and those will not be recinded.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:03 am to
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Biden's signature saying he 'stands down' and will not be running for President is said to be a different signature than the autopen signature.


Correct. That is because whatever document Biden signed to step down was handed to him directly.

I still don’t see any of this mattering though. I also don’t understand the blanket pardons legality. How can one be pardoned when they haven’t been charged with a crime?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84571 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:06 am to
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but most of JB's actions were auto pen and those will not be recinded.


Most have been replaced with trumps EO that invalidates Biden EOs. The pardon part is important because of the Jan 6 committee, govt officials & Biden family who got preemptive blanket pardons.
Posted by Rhio
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2013
1380 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:40 am to
He should have never been President.

The Democrats are such morons.
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