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So does any leftist on this board honestly believe Ukraine can win the war?

Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:23 am
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1766 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:23 am
If the answer is no, then why are they so adamant the fighting continues? All it leads to is unnecessary death and destruction. They've gotten hundreds of billions with little to no results on the battle field. Why keep continuing to fight a losing battle?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125246 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:34 am to
How will they treat their undiagnosed depression if they don’t have a Ukrainian flag in their profile picture?
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17398 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:37 am to
How does Ukraine want to keep on fighting? Are they the aggressor in this or something?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93160 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:39 am to
Its amazing you arent ashamed of yourself for loving Z all these years after what he just pulled

Clown
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85661 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:39 am to
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How does Ukraine want to keep on fighting? Are they the aggressor in this or something?



I don’t think Ukraine does.

Zelensky and US war profiteers do.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26355 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:40 am to
What does a "win" look like for Ukraine? They are never getting Crimea back.
There's a less than 5% chance they will ever get the Donbas region back. It's really about where the new lines are drawn.

If a "win" to to you means regaining all their land from 2014 or even 2022, the answer is no.

The best they can hope for now is to limit the amount of land lost.



Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26198 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:40 am to
There are 3-4 idiots in the OT Ukraine thread that do. Diehards
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17398 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:42 am to
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SDVTiger


It’s amazing that you aren’t ashamed of yourself for being a Putin lover for all these years.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17398 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:43 am to
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I don’t think Ukraine does. Zelensky and US war profiteers do.


But not Russia right?
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
5156 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:44 am to
1. They will go 100mph in the opposite direction of anything Trump says. He could say "remember to wear a lifejacket" and fifty leftists would drown by sunrise.

2. The thought leaders are on the take so they continue to tell the masses it's a good idea to support this war.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93160 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:44 am to
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It’s amazing that you aren’t ashamed of yourself for being a Putin lover for all these years


Wow you clowns are just sad
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16173 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:45 am to
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How does Ukraine want to keep on fighting?


Uhhhhhhhh.. their leader is begging for more money and weapons instead of being serious about peace talks. Their leader came into the Oval Office and tried to lecture the president of the United States about war funding. They are sending more citizens to the front lines through conscription. And he has camped out in countries in the EU who want the war to continue instead of working with the US for a ceasefire.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85661 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:46 am to
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If a "win" to to you means regaining all their land from 2014 or even 2022, the answer is no. The best they can hope for now is to limit the amount of land lost.



That’s more land than prior to 1991.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85661 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:50 am to
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But not Russia right?



What do you mean not Russia? Russia wants peace talks.


I can’t predict the future if there will actually be peace. But it appears that Russia are willing to sit down, the other Russian dictator in charge of Ukraine wants to keep playing games.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55426 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:53 am to
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being a Putin lover for all these years.


I love this new groomer talking point that if you don't want war, you are now a Putin lover.

20 years ago these same people hated Bush for Iraq. Now they are squarely on the side of Cheney, the MIC, etc. It is hilarious to watch.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17398 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:56 am to
quote:

Uhhhhhhhh.. their leader is begging for more money and weapons instead of being serious about peace talks. Their leader came into the Oval Office and tried to lecture the president of the United States about war funding. They are sending more citizens to the front lines through conscription. And he has camped out in countries in the EU who want the war to continue instead of working with the US for a ceasefire.


I mean in their defense, whether you agree or disagree on why it happened, Russia has been messing with them for quite some time now. Wouldn’t you want to be guaranteed, that either Russia won’t do this anymore, or have at the least, the possibility to defend yourself against any military action against your country? I mean that’s been a big thing for them. They sure didn’t have the means in 2013-2016 to properly defend themselves. They don’t want that to happen again. They don’t want to be caught off guard and not be prepared anymore.

That doesn’t mean they want to continue fighting you bozo. They just want to be able to defend themselves properly. How crazy of them right? They aren’t the aggressor. Seems to me like Russia is the ones who want to keep on fighting, since they’re the ones who sent their military into Ukraine. They could put down their weapons and leave, and there’d be peace. No one wants to invade Russia. Ukraine can’t put down their weapons though and expect peace. Ukraine putting down, giving up, or not having any weapons, is a big reason why Russia thought this was a good idea to begin with. Just like Israel. They can’t lay down their weapons. If they did that, the entire Muslim world would attack them.

The US has already gave guarantees to Russia that we won’t do anymore of that “globalist, expansion” stuff. So we’ve gave our guarantees, so now why can’t Russia give their guarantee that they won’t invade anymore?
Posted by Arkaea79
Member since Sep 2022
957 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:57 am to
Doesn't matter as long as Pocahontas gets 5 more years of blood shed.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93160 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:58 am to
quote:

I love this new groomer talking point that if you don't want war, you are now a Putin lover.



Its really the best ever. I told all those losers this entire war was about nato expansion and minerals

They all said, including stat4evertard, it was about marching on Paris

They are all such dorks
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17398 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:01 am to
quote:

What do you mean not Russia? Russia wants peace talks.


Russia wants peace talks so much, that they sent their military, and hundreds of thousands of men into another country. They are so peaceful and good man.

quote:

I can’t predict the future if there will actually be peace. But it appears that Russia are willing to sit down, the other Russian dictator in charge of Ukraine wants to keep playing games.


Come on man. How many times has Putin sat down with Trump, or any US politican in the past month? Now how many times has Zelensky sat down with Trump, or any US politican the past month, to try and talk peace. What guarantees has Russia gave since they’re so willing to sit down and make peace?
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38617 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:03 am to
Does anybody believe that NATO could win a war with Russia, minus the US? Russia could level Europe within 30 minutes. It is insanity to get involved in a civil war wherein many Ukrainians want to be part of a Nationalist Russia as opposed to a Woke Europe.

The US would not tolerate Putin moving in on our Southern/Mexico Border, and neither should Russian tolerate Ukraine going NATO. Obama/Biden and the Globalist EU and their ilk started this war, and they own it.
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