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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Friedbrie
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Friedbrie
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Posted by Lakeboy7
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:49 pm to
Let’s do PPP
Posted by BigPerm30
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:49 pm to
Most shocking part of those revelations is that Winzip is still in business and someone is actually paying for those licenses.
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:50 pm to
That's not shocking tbh.

If you have more people retiring/leaving than you originally had licenses when you set up the contract. You could wind up in a spot where you are paying fir more licenses than employees using them...until the contract for the license renews.



Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:50 pm to
Very common and low hanging fruit. Anyone that’s been in the military would tell you this isn’t surprising.

Find something noteworthy, doge
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:51 pm to
This is a pretty common problem in corporate America

They definitely should go through and consolidate systems and such to save money again probably not enough to matter a ton here but should be tightened up.


Although some of these you have to wonder what the full scope of their planned implementation is and what phase they're in. You sometimes get big price breaks for buying more than you need so you can scale into it. Vs buying small chunks over and over and getting raked over the coals.


But no one should be paying for fricking winzip
Posted by DesScorp
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:52 pm to
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Most shocking part of those revelations is that Winzip is still in business and someone is actually paying for those licenses.


Microsoft has had built in zip capability since Windows 7. There’s no excuse for this.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:52 pm to
Here’s another jagoff who doesn’t get it.

The policies and procedures that allow these redundancies allows $20B to just disappear into thin air with no accounting.

You fix it one step at a time. So sit back and shut up, unless you have something to actually say that doesn’t come from a peanut gallery script.
Posted by FLTech
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:52 pm to
Who the frick still uses WinZip???
Posted by Jorts R Us
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:52 pm to
I believe that. Hell, I see waste with licenses in the private sector.
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:54 pm to
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But no one should be paying for fricking winzip


100%

I can't even remember the last time I've known somebody who had that on their computer.

Only thing I can reasonably think of is folks on legacy systems that can't upgrade to new OS.

Posted by Fat Fingers
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:56 pm to
Yes, you aren’t wrong. But not with those numbers. I could see maybe 5% or even 10%, if you had volatility in your staffing. That is not what we are seeing.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:57 pm to
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Only thing I can reasonably think of is folks on legacy systems that can't upgrade to new OS.

Maybe they just bought a bunch way back when and as they retired them they were just left over?
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:59 pm to
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But not with those numbers. I could see maybe 5% or even 10%, if you had volatility in your staffing. That is not what we are seeing.


Yeah i agree. I'd be alittle more on the percentages...maybe up to a quarter

That's why I'm wondering if it's security related because of legacy systems...or for some other third reason i can't think of at the moment

Lord knows there is alot of that in the govt, banks, etc.

Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:00 pm to
quote:


This is a pretty common problem in corporate America

They definitely should go through and consolidate systems and such to save money again probably not enough to matter a ton here but should be tightened up.


Although some of these you have to wonder what the full scope of their planned implementation is and what phase they're in. You sometimes get big price breaks for buying more than you need so you can scale into it. Vs buying small chunks over and over and getting raked over the coals.


But no one should be paying for fricking winzip



This might be the first time I've upvoted one of your posts.

It's very common in large orgs to keep a surplus of software licences to onboard new hires more quickly and efficiently.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:00 pm to
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Agencies often have more software licenses than employees




Yeah, no shite.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:00 pm to
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Maybe they just bought a bunch way back when and as they retired them they were just left over?


Could be

I like that they brought this up. It's definitely an issue that needs to be resolved particularly fir the more expensive softwares.

But in overall grand scheme of things. I would think low on the totem pole.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:01 pm to
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Yes, you aren’t wrong. But not with those numbers. I could see maybe 5% or even 10%, if you had volatility in your staffing. That is not what we are seeing.

For an organization this size it's not unrealistic what they have here. And sometimes you buy up with plans to expand or things change and you negotiate back down.

The ss admin finding uipath having double licenses is a good example. If they continue building out automation there they'll continue to consume more and more since it's tied to workers not users there. Nothing nefarious there just more info needed
Posted by SingleMalt1973
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:02 pm to
They should run that Rocket subscription checker app on the Fed Gubment.
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