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For the McManiacs: So McMahon needs how much NIL money
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:23 am
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:23 am
to make up for his coaching deficiencies? I’ll hang up and listen.
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:39 am to STLSU
Always
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:51 am to STLSU
This Nil narrative came out of nowhere didn't it ? Came out suddenly and strongly. The media went from totally ignoring men's basketball to several outlets and specific media members who have not covered or commented on hoops much at all this year suddenly all coming out with basically the same story all in a matter of days.
Almost as if it was orchestrated?
For me any doubt that CMM was coming back next year was pretty much ended by this PR salvo.
Look - I hope it works out, I want LSU to win in hoops as much as anyone. Not sure this is the magic elixir, but I guess we're gonna find out.
Almost as if it was orchestrated?
For me any doubt that CMM was coming back next year was pretty much ended by this PR salvo.
Look - I hope it works out, I want LSU to win in hoops as much as anyone. Not sure this is the magic elixir, but I guess we're gonna find out.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:52 am to STLSU
Enough to get through one more year of mediocre at best basketball, so Woody can shave another 3 million off his buyout. Also, he can hope that Wade takes a power five job this year and is not an option next year when we are on the market for a new coach.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:56 am to STLSU
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to make up for his coaching deficiencies? I’ll hang up and listen.
We're going to act like having one of the lowest NIL budgets has little impact in the best basketball conference in the country?
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:58 am to whatiknowsofar
I think once the new arena is announced which is supposedly this spring
Kinda makes the incentive to give more focus on MBB
Kinda makes the incentive to give more focus on MBB
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:02 am to STLSU
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I'll hang up and listen.
That phrase is so old and stale, it makes leisure suits appear stylish.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:20 am to BBJ
I’m a bit skeptical that the new arena details will be announced this spring, considering that it was supposed to be made public last fall. Delay after delay, per the norm. Give us the scoop already!
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:22 am to whatiknowsofar
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We're going to act like having one of the lowest NIL budgets has little impact in the best basketball conference in the country?
Not sure of either the accuracy or the source of the numbers reported, but I'll make the assumption that they are accurate or close to it then my concerns are that recruiting/Portal in actuality has arguably been what CMM has done best here - even despite the alleged $$ limitations.
Our rankings combined recruiting/portal have been in the upper half of the SEC since he's been here, but the production has not mirrored those rankings.
So, it's either flawed ranking systems, poor evaluation, poor roster construction, poor development, retention issues or some combination of a few or all of the above.
If any or some of the above are indeed issues, how much does throwing more money at it really improve things?
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:28 am to Tiger Ugly
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any or some of the above are indeed issues, how much does throwing more money at it really improve things?
Probably a lot from a depth perspective. Losing one of our best players early was a killer.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:29 am to ellessuuuu
If this year's team surges late and is able to tournament (NIT?), maybe NIL funding will surprisingly flow in.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:30 am to STLSU
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2/22/25 at 7:23 am
It’s Saturday morning & you’re worried about McMahon
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:35 am to STLSU
You can’t be this stupid. Every coach in every sport needs it to compete. What’s so difficult to understand that you can buy players and a lot of kids will go to highest better. I never thought I lived to see the day that this would completely destroy NCAA sports, but it happened
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:37 am to ellessuuuu
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Enough to get through one more year of mediocre at best basketball, so Woody can shave another 3 million off his buyout. Also, he can hope that Wade takes a power five job this year and is not an option next year when we are on the market for a new coach.
This is the correct answer.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:38 am to whatiknowsofar
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Probably a lot from a depth perspective. Losing one of our best players early was a killer.
Hey, I'd love to have Reed - I think it's a matter of perspective on this.
For you more $ would mean better depth to be able to win at a reasonable rate even when losing one of your better players.
My perspective is given some of what I've seen in the last 3 years, I'm not so sure the right evaluations, decisions, roster construction and retention aspects I have concerns about guarantee more $$ magically solves the problems. In other words - I still have concerns about CMM using the extra money efficiently.
But the bottom line is - we will see next year and I hope he proves my concerns unwarranted.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:42 am to Tiger Ugly
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Hey, I'd love to have Reed - I think it's a matter of perspective on this. For you more $ would mean better depth to be able to win at a reasonable rate even when losing one of your better players. My perspective is given some of what I've seen in the last 3 years, I'm not so sure the right evaluations, decisions, roster construction and retention aspects I have concerns about guarantee more $$ magically solves the problems. In other words - I still have concerns about CMM using the extra money efficiently. But the bottom line is - we will see next year and I hope he proves my concerns unwarranted.
I agree 100%. We all want a winner. The problem is MM has shown he just isn’t the guy. The rest of the SEC has passed him by in less time and it’s not a talent or money problem. Throwing more money at him is wasteful and just delays the inevitable another year. Go get a good coach and reinvigorate the fans and the NIL money will flow in.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:50 am to LSUFootballLover
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o get a good coach and reinvigorate the fans and the NIL money will flow in.
I think that's another layer to this that is missed......the head coach in this day and age may want to just sit back and coach and not have anything to do with recruiting and fund raising like Ole John Wooden back in the day.
But unless you are at some blue blood school like Kentucky or Kansas where money flows in from all over and always will - that ain't happening. Especially at LSU where men's hoops is far down the pecking order.
I've said this before and I know some folks don't like bringing up he who shall not be named - but if WW was coach here, we would absolutely not be at the bottom of the SEC in NIL funding and I don't think anyone would be obtuse enough to argue that. I just use this as an example - it could be Oats, it could be Pearl.....whatever....the point remains.
CMM has to have some responsibility in raising NIL funds - or lack thereof. That's just a fact.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:54 am to STLSU
oh, you meant talent deficiencies. Got it....
about 350M
about 350M
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:57 am to STLSU
McMahon or any other coach needs to be supported in the same manner as the contenders are supported.
No coach is going to build and sustain a program without top talent. Nobody.
No coach is going to build and sustain a program without top talent. Nobody.
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 10:09 am
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:00 am to doubleb
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McMahon or any other coach needs to be supported in the same manner as the contenders are supported.
It also not only helps, but IMHO is critical for McMahon or any other coach to court and actively and effectively cultivate said support.
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