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Dem Rep Jared Moskowitz calls out MJ. Will you still fund corruption found by DOGE?

Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:24 am
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:24 am
It's in the cold opening of this War Room episode: LINK

"Mr. Speaker, if DOGE has found all this waste, fraud and abuse, then we can't fund the government by CR anymore. Funding the government by CR is a continuation of funding all the wastes fraud and abuse."

We need the waste fraud and abuse nixed in committee in the proposed 12 appropriation bills. Get back to normal budgeting. frick CRs.

IIRC a new budget is due in congress my the middle of March.


But here's the deal...is Representative Jaret Moskowitz sincere here? I doubt it. He is setting up the narrative that the Republican Speaker Mike Johnson will continue to fund waste, fraud and abuse which will piss off the MAGA base and fracture us as a party.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:28 am to
It's already been discussed at length on here that we will see the sincerity of cuts in a few weeks. It's almost exactly 30 days until the CR will be extended.

This is the change to complete the Gaetz prophecy of 12 spending bills with the House, Senate, and President all non-DEM.

Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:32 am to
Well I was under the impression that Dems said that they were going for a shutdown
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:32 am to
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Gaetz prophecy



You mean proposal.

Gaetz never predicted this. In fact he said it was more probable that his proposal would fail due to corrupt GOP. But it's a proposal to push the House budgeting in the proper direction despite being difficult.
Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:35 am to
Boom and I got crucified here for just asking if this was the case.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:36 am to
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Well I was under the impression that Dems said that they were going for a shutdown


They are going for whatever is politically expedient. They are trying to get footing right now.

This Democrat Representative Jared Moskowitz is setting the frame for Mike Johnson as funding DOGE identified corruption as being a failure and nixing DOGE identified corruption as being a success.

He knows the chances of Mike Johnson funding DOGE identified corruption as being really high...thus being a big failure.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:39 am to
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He knows the chances of Mike Johnson funding DOGE identified corruption as being really high...thus being a big failure.


Even with the loose language used, how would it not be a failure of DOGE? Or if not the specific agency (or whatever it is), the purported support/philosophy behind creating it?

This is the first test and the time when Trump has the most power and momentum. We should see the most significant cuts this go around.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:43 am to
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Even with the loose language used, how would it not be a failure of DOGE?


So your expectation is for DOGE to pass legislation or identify "waste, fraud and abuse"?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:45 am to
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"Mr. Speaker, if DOGE has found all this waste, fraud and abuse, then we can't fund the government by CR anymore. Funding the government by CR is a continuation of funding all the wastes fraud and abuse."



Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:45 am to
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So your expectation is for DOGE to pass legislation or identify "waste, fraud and abuse"?


quote:

Or if not the specific agency (or whatever it is), the purported support/philosophy behind creating it?
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:51 am to
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He is setting up the narrative that the Republican Speaker Mike Johnson will continue to fund waste, fraud and abuse which will piss off the MAGA base and fracture us as a party.


Johnson has already done that and is hated by the majority

Posted by 20 ton
BR
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 8:01 am to
Most of these contracts are done on the agency level and not specified in legislation. If you have control of contract/ grant allocation and check writing you can shut much of the problem.

If USAID is buying La. rice or Ks. wheat and feeding starving children then great. No one should want to pay NGO’s to expedite illegal migration. The gay/trans shite is a hell no.

All expenditures should be transparent and administrative expenses available for the grantees. It is not a charity if the directors are making more than the president and forty or more percent is administrative expenses. I wonder who these NGO administrators were giving political donations to.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 8:08 am to
I was being a little tongue in cheek on the dem shutting down. They are trying hard to be a thorn in the side of OMB. I wish they had this much energy when they are in charge
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 8:09 am to
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Or if not the specific agency (or whatever it is), the purported support/philosophy behind creating it?


I'll just quote the purpose from DOGE from the EO:

quote:

Purpose. This Executive Order establishes the Department of Government Efficiency to implement the President’s DOGE Agenda, by modernizing Federal technology and software to maximize governmental efficiency and productivity.


Looks like a side benefit of DOGE besides modernizing Federal technology and software, is to report existing waste, fraud and abuse to the Executive and the American people.

DOGE expires after 18 months from the EO.

This post was edited on 2/14/25 at 8:09 am
Posted by KingOrange
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 8:09 am to
We all know DOGE was created to find the W F and A. It is Congress that holds the power of the purse. DOGE has done its job. It has exposed the corruption.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 8:11 am to
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Looks like a side benefit of DOGE besides modernizing Federal technology and software, is to report existing waste, fraud and abuse to the Executive and the American people.


That's certainly the wink wink nudge nudge used to bootstrap onto an old agency, for various reasons.

quote:

DOGE expires after 18 months from the EO.

And if it doesn't lead to actual spending decreases, it's virtue signaling at best (and has been one of my primary fears about hyping it up too much since it was first floated during the campaign).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 8:13 am to
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DOGE has done its job. It has exposed the corruption.

Not really.

It's educated people who are political neophytes a bit, but "corruption" hasn't been found yet.

The largest "find" that those who are DOGE-adjacent are claiming is information from the GAO of the Biden admin, in a report using data from the various IGs that already existed to perform this function.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 8:13 am to
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And if it doesn't lead to actual spending decreases, it's virtue signaling at best


So your position is to do nothing. Got it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 8:16 am to
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So your position is to do nothing

Nice strawman.

My position is to desire a decrease in spending via Congressional action.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
25302 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 8:18 am to
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it's virtue signaling at best


Stop.

The left wouldn't be doxing 20 year olds and openly weeping about big balls if there was zero threat.

If firefighters fail to save your house that's mostly engulfed in fire then that's just what happens, that doesn't mean their efforts were "virtue signaling at best".
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