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Nayib Bukele (El Salvador)

Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:33 pm
Posted by Nevada_Tiger
Las Veags
Member since Jan 2025
301 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:33 pm
Seeing what he’s done in El Salvador to make it safe for the people has been nothing short of impressive. But he is also a dictator.

Watching him interact with Marco Rubio here, he also seems like a genuine good guy. I’m mostly thinking aloud here trying to reconcile a good guy who is a dictator and has also done incredible things for his people.

I grew up being taught democracy is the ultimate good in governing but I think freedom is actually the ultimate good now.

Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5782 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:47 pm to
Marco seems like a great choice for his role
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17472 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:52 pm to


I just couldn't help it.

quote:

He also praised his party's performance in the legislative election, which he credited with winning at least 58 out of the 60 seats in the National Assembly: "This will be the first time where one sole party rules a country in a completely democratic system. We pulverised all of the opposition [in the polls]."


Bukele re-elected in LANDSLIDE!!
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 7:55 pm
Posted by Nevada_Tiger
Las Veags
Member since Jan 2025
301 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:53 pm to
I agree. Marco has also grown over his years in office. The ability to change your mind can be a superpower.
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
13769 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:55 pm to
2016 Rubio was Obama-lite.

He definitely changed for the better since then
Posted by dbbuilder79
Overton NV
Member since Dec 2010
4570 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:55 pm to
Just because he is a "dictator", doesn't mean he's not a god fearing man.

He may be in that role for a reason
Posted by Nevada_Tiger
Las Veags
Member since Jan 2025
301 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:58 pm to
That’s basically my point and the idea that I’m coming around to.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25041 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:58 pm to
A handyman I use is from El Salvador and goes back yearly to see family. He is very happy with Bukele getting rid of gang tyranny that terrorized and extorted most people in the country.
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
5829 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:01 pm to
The “benevolent dictator” usually develops paranoia and just becomes the Dictator.
Posted by Nevada_Tiger
Las Veags
Member since Jan 2025
301 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:03 pm to
Ya - that’s the absolute power corrupts absolutely angle. It would take an extraordinary figure to handle it.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19814 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:05 pm to
Ummm dude, he was elected. HE IS NOT A DICTATOR!

Sorry you like MS-13.
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
4525 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:05 pm to
Bukele looks like a baw
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
32999 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:08 pm to
DJT is making central and South America a central focus.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

I grew up being taught democracy is the ultimate good in governing but I think freedom is actually the ultimate good now.


Well well well

If you got to this place in your mind organically, then you are ripe for neo reactionary thought.

Read some Curtis Yarvin, Hans Herman Hoppe, James Burnham. Listen to podcasts by Auron MacIntyre, Academic Agent, and The Distributist.

Democracy is not only not the ultimate good, but is arguably the source of most our our society’s ills.

Your statement on freedom is compelling. Something else for you to think about: freedom means different things to different people. Individual liberty without restraint at all costs is a prison and enslavement in of itself.
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 8:11 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50775 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

Ummm dude, he was elected. HE IS NOT A DICTATOR!

Sorry you like MS-13.
So was Trump. He's called a 'dictator' on Reddit and DU every minute.
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
5222 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:09 pm to
Huey Long was a dictator but was good for the state.

The term is Benevolent Dictator
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12582 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

very happy with Bukele getting rid of gang tyranny that terrorized and extorted most people in the country.

Cool...so now all the El Salvadoran refugees no longer need "asylum" and be returned home.

Win.
Posted by Hodag
Northwoods
Member since Sep 2024
1083 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:16 pm to
You don't seem like a board retard so I ask in good faith, how is Bukele a dictator?

Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

Huey Long was a dictator but was good for the state.

The term is Benevolent Dictator


Dictators, or monarchs, who have lifetime appointments can be more positive than democratic institutions for a variety of reasons.

Primarily because they have a true stake in the country, because it must flourish for them to leave a good situation for their children and not cause the people to revolt. They are not interested in quick fixes before their term is up and kicking the can down the road. The incentives for absolute rule by the individual provide an environment with a higher ceiling for human flourishing than in a democracy.

The downsides are obvious in the event of getting a bad king/dictator. I think the frequency of that trope in the real world is overplayed though, and they tend to flame out quickly because of the negativity they build up.
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 8:20 pm
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:22 pm to
"Marco is the Hispanic face of white supremacy" - democrats
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 10:49 pm
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