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We need an EO to force father of every newborn to be financially responsible for the child

Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:34 am
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
18511 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:34 am
We need one. 25% of the children in US live without a father in the home. We need the birth fathers to step up and be financially obligated to support their children and eliminate the Government's help. It may not prevent the first 'unwanted' birth, but it may slow down the births of many more. This is a step toward making American Great again.
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If an unwed father is not listed on the birth certificate, he has no legal rights to the child. This includes no obligation to paying child support and no rights to visitation to custody or child support. If no father is listed on the birth certificate, the mother has sole legal rights and responsibility of the child.

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According to data from the U.S. Census Bureau, around 1 in 4 children in the United States, or approximately 18.3 million children, live without a father in the home, meaning their birth certificates may not list a father's name; this is due to various factors like unmarried parents or situations where paternity has not been established.
Key points:
Percentage: Roughly 25% of children in the US live without a father present in the household.
Number: Approximately 18.3 million children.
Reason: This can occur when parents are not married at the time of birth, or if paternity is not legally established.

What happens if you are a woman, poor, and don't have a father to help pay for new child? You can apply for TANF. What is TANF?
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What is TANF?
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) is a federally funded, state-run program. Also known as welfare, TANF helps families pay for:

Food
Housing
Home energy
Child care
In addition to cash assistance for living expenses, many states offer job training and help with tuition payments for work-related education.

Each state or tribal government runs its TANF program differently and has a different name.
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This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 11:42 am
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19396 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:36 am to
If you do that you better have mandatory DNA testing.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
42916 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:37 am to
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An EO to force the Father of every newborn to be financially responsible for the child.


What if the father is a woman?
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
7857 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:38 am to
I have a single mom in my life. She’s the best mom I know and one of the best people in general.

The father of the child is a worthless bum. She has had to fight him tooth and nail to do the bare minimum.

Fortunately she has a high paying career and is very successful.

These bums get away with it by making sure it’s so difficult to hold them accountable, you just stop trying.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44878 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:39 am to
Right now, women are incentivized by welfare programs to not get married and not have a father living in the home. All such programs must be reworked to instead incentivize the 2 parent family structure.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:39 am to
Maybe mom shouldn't have gotten knocked up by a bum.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:39 am to
Government it intervention destroys social institutions


Poor women are much more likely to have children out of wedlock today, because we have substantial welfare programs to support them.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92354 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:40 am to
I'm now a trans woman so I don't have to pay sheeeet.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
7857 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:40 am to
I do not want the government social engineering.
We just had 4 years of that garbage.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22898 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:41 am to
There would need to be proof of paternity in order to require financial responsibility
Posted by ouflak
Manchester, England
Member since Jul 2021
583 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:42 am to
What if it's a married man who finds out his children aren't his?
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
7857 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:42 am to
Sometimes you don’t know til you know.

Never tested him.
Failed the first time.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44878 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:43 am to
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do not want the government social engineering.
We just had 4 years of that garbage.


Nor do it. But I also don’t want single women with babies to get more welfare than a married mother with the husband and father in the home. That is a different social engineering program and we are living the results of it every day.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28178 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:43 am to
Know why you are getting downvoted? Lot of deadbeats in these parts.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:43 am to
I wonder about mandatory DNA testing, if we did that, what would the practical repercussions be?

How many men are raising children that aren’t there’s?
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
7857 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:44 am to
I get what you are saying.

I just believe we can do that differently.

Government incentives are dangerous.
You want accountability. So do I.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42867 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:46 am to
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Know why you are getting downvoted? Lot of deadbeats in these parts.


Or maybe just maybe the responsibility of child creation/birth is purely controlled by the woman and we should not absolve their terrible choices.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 11:46 am
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44878 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:47 am to
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get what you are saying.

I just believe we can do that differently.

Government incentives are dangerous.
You want accountability. So do I.


Agreed. Let’s start without ending the cuts made when the father is in the home. And let’s looks at restructuring programs so they are a hand up and not a hand out.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10559 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:49 am to
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We need one. 25% of the children in US live without a father in the home. We need the birth fathers to step up and be financially obligated to support their children and eliminate the Government's help.


sure.
as soon as we also mandate the father has all the same rights as the mother does with regards to the child.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
7857 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:52 am to
Yes.

There has to be some ROI on taxpayer funded programs.
Some will say there already is if it keeps the crime rates manageable. However, I want more for my dollars.

That woman that’s basically a breeder on a poverty ranch has to have some consequences.
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