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Why Trumpsigned EO to end birthright citizenship

Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:28 am
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:28 am
He knows it will get overturned. He just wants to stop the bleeding for as long as he can. Women will be way less incentivized to play the anchor baby game.

Or, do you see a realistic world where the EO is upheld?
This post was edited on 1/22/25 at 7:30 am
Posted by Rex Feral
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:29 am to
He wants SCOTUS to make a final ruling and I don't think they'll overturn his order.
Posted by captainFid
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:32 am to
does it matter?

Posted by swamptiger99
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:32 am to
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Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:35 am to
It is to get the matter in the spot light and turned over by the Supreme Court.

Next EO. All pregnant women entering the country must have proof of insurance or purchase a $100k a day insurance plan that only covers pregnancy.

If you don’t have either you can’t get in. Turn around. Fly back to shitholeville.

If that gets overturned, pregnant women must show prenatal care records upon entry or GTFO.

Make it as hard as you can for as long as you can.

There’s no reason for a 8 month pregnant tourist to be here. None.
This post was edited on 1/22/25 at 7:44 am
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:35 am to
quote:

The 14th amendment:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Why wouldn't his EO be held up?


subject to the jurisdiction thereof
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:36 am to
Most of trumps EOs are to challenge current law. Dems will sue and it will go to the Supreme Court. The left gets mad and doesn’t understand that when they challenge stuff like this it will bite them in the arse. It goes both ways too as the more the left challenges things like 2a, one day it will likely go to absolute right how it is written. Birthright citizenship wasn’t made for people to come here to have a kid to benefit themselves.
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:37 am to
quote:

If you don’t have either you can’t get in. Turn around. Fly back to shitholeville.

If that gets overturned, pregnant women must show prenatal care records upon entry or GTFO.

Make it as hard as you can for as long as you can.


This is the way
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:38 am to
quote:

subject to the jurisdiction thereof


Their jurisdiction as citizens of other countries isn’t the jurisdiction of our country.
Posted by BuckeyeGoon
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:39 am to
"and subject to the jurisdiction thereof"

This part seems to imply born to US citizens. Otherwise what's the point of adding that caveat? They could have just said all persons born on US soil are citizens if that's what they really meant.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:39 am to
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Or, do you see a realistic world where the EO is upheld?

No, it goes down 9-0 at SCOTUS. And it should. We need to end it, but ending it through executive order is about as legal as forgiving student loans that way.
Posted by Boss
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:39 am to
Then why did they have a trial for Laken Riley’s killer. They should have just shipped his arse to Guantanamo. Oh that’s right. He was subject to our jurisdiction.
Posted by Tridentds
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:40 am to
It could be upheld depending on interpretation of whether the mother/father is here illegally. It also depends on the court and political belief of the judge(s). I think about a 60-65% chance it is upheld.
Posted by BamaScoop
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:41 am to
It should be upheld on parents that are here illegally!
Posted by swamptiger99
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:41 am to
Correct! Hence why the EO should be held up
Posted by i am dan
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:41 am to
Birthright citizenship is antiquated.

There is no reason for it.
Posted by JoeXiden
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:42 am to
Yes and even if it does not get upheld by the SCOTUS, it still forces the conversation to be had as a matter of public policy rather than driven by talking heads on the TV who pull at the heartstrings of idiots.
Posted by Boss
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:42 am to
Then tell Congress to amend the constitution
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:43 am to
quote:

and subject to the jurisdiction thereof"

This part seems to imply born to US citizens. Otherwise what's the point of adding that caveat?

The object of that exception was to exclude foreign diplomats. Illegal immigrants ARE subject to our jurisdiction.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:43 am to
quote:

Next EO. All pregnant women entering the country must have proof of insurance or purchase a $100k a day insurance plan that only covers pregnancy.


That's pretty genius
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