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Hinkle Reservoir pioneers floating cover with 45 year lifetime

Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:35 pm
Posted by FreedomBarefoot
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:35 pm
This article talks about how easy it is to maintain, modify, and repair the covers. It also has a 25 year warranty.

https://www.waterworld.com/drinking-water-treatment/article/16224733/hinkle-reservoir-pioneers-floating-cover-with-45-year-lifetime

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The 62 million gallon capacity Hinkle Reservoir in Granite Bay, Calif., provides quality water to more than 265,000 people annually in the Sacramento region. With a surface area of some 12.5 acres, Hinkle was a pioneer in floating reservoir covers since its reconstruction in 1980, and attracted interest from many international civil engineers, municipal administrators and legislators.

Remarkably, the original cover membrane based on DuPont Dow Elastomers Hypalon® chlorosulfonated polyethylene and still in place 25 years later, is expected to last another 20 years, according to recent forensic tests on the material. General manager Jim English, describes the reservoir with its floating cover as "an amazing success and a practical and economical solution" for the San Juan Water District (SJWD)


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With the initial 25-year warranty on the floating cover nearing expiry, and to assess how well the cover was still performing, the SJWD recently hired an independent contractor to carry out destructive testing on a number of small panels cut from the floating cover membrane based on Hypalon.


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"The overall integrity of the floating cover has been great," continued O'Bleness. The crew that works at the Hinkle Reservoir has made a number of improvements to the engineering design of the installation, such as adding valves to the surface drains. And the membrane itself has not had any major rip failures. "Primarily the damage we have seen to the membrane has come from kids throwing rocks, or birds pecking," O'Bleness explained. And due to the ease of maintenance of Hypalon, the repairs have been relatively easy to handle.

Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:07 pm to
Seems like a floating cover that produces solar would be a win-win.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9511 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:08 pm to
About 30 years ago the Dow Seadrift plant installed a floating roof about 5-8 acres over a waste treatment lagoon. It's worked fine but the wonks that make the plastic at the site sez to start preparing a replacement because the 30 years of south texas sun is starting to unzip the polymer. Easily repaired but the repairs accelerate.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:12 pm to
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Seems like a floating cover that produces solar would be a win-win.

It's been done but maintenance is through the roof.
Posted by FreedomBarefoot
42° parallel
Member since Aug 2016
2497 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:14 pm to
That's what I was wondering if it would easier to buy a new one or make the 130,000.00 repair to the Santa ynez cover.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44670 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 5:07 pm to

I know this is probably a stupid question, but why does this reservoir require a cover? Cedar Creek Reservoir supplies water to Fort Worth and has no cover.
Posted by Rascal52
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 5:20 pm to
Covers prevent water loss via evaporation.
Posted by FreedomBarefoot
42° parallel
Member since Aug 2016
2497 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 5:22 pm to
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I know this is probably a stupid question, but why does this reservoir require a cover? Cedar Creek Reservoir supplies water to Fort Worth and has no cover.


I was wondering the same thing. If it didn't have a cover the birds wouldn't shite in it. They could use the same type of pool robots for most debris
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44670 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 5:22 pm to
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Covers prevent water loss via evaporation.


So when did the reservoir need to be drained bc the cover had a tear? Couldn’t they just leave the water there and let some evaporate while they repaired or replaced the cover?
Posted by Rascal52
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 5:25 pm to
I don’t know the reason why they were removed. I haven’t paid much attention to what’s goes on in California other than the recent fires.


ETA. I’m not sure if the covers were removed during the draw down.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 5:29 pm
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9511 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 5:28 pm to
The drinking water nazi's probably forced a shut down to repair approach rather than let the folks walk out to do a I hour melt seam repair. Thats how I have seen other application do it. A site in western Canada did well with the roof except when. a deer would try to walk it and puncture holes.
Posted by FreedomBarefoot
42° parallel
Member since Aug 2016
2497 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 5:33 pm to
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a deer would try to walk it and puncture holes.


My dog used to love walking on the pool cover. Lol
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44670 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 7:57 pm to
But why does it need a cover at all?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41748 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:03 pm to
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But why does it need a cover at all?


Iirc, it does a couple of things.

1. Reduce evaporation
2. Limit contamination

The real question is, why did it take so long to repair it?
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44670 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:06 pm to
Even with evaporation, some water in the reservoir would have been much better than no water.

And contamination from what? As I said, Cedar Creek Reservoir supplies water to Ft Worth, TX and does not have a cover.

As for why it’s taken so long for repairs, California. I doubt it was a priority.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 8:07 pm
Posted by Grifola
Member since Aug 2017
224 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:11 pm to
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And contamination from what?


It depends on the location of the reservoir, it can be upstream or downstream of treatment plants.

Bromide is a naturally occurring salt, exposure to ozone and UV can form bromate, which is toxic. The covers help prevent this.

Evaporation is not insignificant, but can be a secondary benefit of the cover. Then lastly there is contamination from birds/wildlife.




Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41748 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

Bromide is a naturally occurring salt, exposure to ozone and UV can form bromate, which is toxic. The covers help prevent this.


I blanked on this, an actually learned about it from the video you linked. Thanks.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18509 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:57 am to
You folks are approaching this question like a normal person, Cali is a socialist state. Now let me explain:

By draining the entire reservoir and then refilling it, you are adding about 2000 good manhours of work at time and a half and double time since it is out of the scope of their work rules. In addition, you will need additional supervisors, which no doubt can be sourced from a state representative or two which Im sure have kids who need summer jobs in between their brainwashing at Berkeley .

We will drain that reservoir quicker than the Cali state budget, and have it filled quicker than the feds can fill our budget coffers with yet another disaster relief package.
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