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Dirty Shirts, Nuns, Pirates, and Old Hickory: The Battle of New Orleans

Posted on 1/11/25 at 8:22 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 8:22 pm
Andrew Jackson brought together a motley crew to fight the Battle of New Orleans, a battle that helped shape America’s self-image.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/bright/dirty-shirts-nuns-pirates-and-old-hickory-the-battle-of-new-orleans-5785756

Helluva good read. The Epoch Times is one of us. Free read ... worthwhile.

Learned some things I didn't know.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 8:26 pm to


In 1814 we took a little trip
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 8:27 pm to
Rarely if ever has a battle so effectively matched the culture of the town it was fought in like that one did.

You have the all time badass American Andrew Jackson teaming up with local
elites, freed slaves, native Americans, volunteers from all over the frontier and legit pirates.

And they all came together to put an all time asswhipping on the British.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

Rarely if ever has a battle so effectively matched the culture of the town it was fought in like that one did.

You have the all time badass American Andrew Jackson teaming up with local
elites, freed slaves, native Americans, volunteers from all over the frontier and legit pirates.

And they all came together to put an all time asswhipping on the British.

Very well put.

Posted by SloaneRanger
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 8:34 pm to
This article lost me in the second paragraph when he says the battle was "unnecessary." The Treaty of Ghent hadn't been ratified and we were still at war. And the British were not acquiescing in the validity of the Louisiana Purchase. Had they taken New Orleans there is a chance that they would not have given it back. It was a very important battle. The lazy narrative that it was fought after the war was over is just wrong.
Posted by Camijoe
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 8:45 pm to
Did you learn from the Epoch Times that Mao Tse Tung is the one who really defeated the Brits down in the Parish
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 8:46 pm to
In elementary school (1970’s) my class took a field trip the Chalmette Battlefield where the battle took place. I went again a few years ago because I was in the area. The battlefield itself is rather small. It’s a shame because it is really not being kept up very well.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:00 pm to
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In elementary school (1970’s) my class took a field trip the Chalmette Battlefield where the battle took place. I went again a few years ago because I was in the area. The battlefield itself is rather small. It’s a shame because it is really not being kept up very well.

We have a lot to be proud of as Americans and a lot of historic sites worth remembering and preserving.

Anyone who enjoys this kind of stuff should check out the American Battlefield Trust who has done great work across the country buying, restoring and preserving historic battle sites.

They’re well run and have bought some critical plots over the last 20 years or so.
American Battlefield Trust
Posted by Thecoz
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 11:20 pm to
“In 1814 we took a little trip”

Did you bring the bacon?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 11:53 pm to
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In 1814 we took a little trip


At one point in my life, I had that on 45....
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:11 am to
Thanks for posting. We need to be reminded of our history of this great country.

The lifting of the fog was crucial in winning that battle.
It has been said that it was an act of the Almighty God in establishing our blessed nation.
The lifting of the fog gave AJ and the fighting men better vision of what the Brits were doing.
Posted by Swamp Angel
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Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:06 am to
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. The battlefield itself is rather small. It’s a shame because it is really not being kept up very well.

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This seems to be the case with many historical sites these days. Revisionist history seems to be much more important than the real history of our nation.
Case in point - my wife and I took the long way back home to Georgia after attending my mother's funeral in WV a year-an-a-half ago. Rather than take I-64 to I-75, we decided to take US60 and back roads. Along the way we decided to stop and check out Fort Boonesborough being that neither of us had seen it since a field trip in fifth grade some forty-five years ago.
The grass was tended well enough, but the facilities were run down and boarded up and the only real attraction that seemed to be even mildly maintained was the boat ramp into the Kentucky River.

You'd think that the state of Kentucky would have a bit more pride regarding the single most famous individual who took part in the founding of the state.

After seeing what Ft Boonesborough looked like, we didn't even want to make the drive to Hopkinsville to see Lincoln's birthplace.
Posted by Slinger16
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:13 am to
You'd be sorely disappointed with Hopkinsville... because Lincolns birthplace is outside Hodgenville which is over an hour away.

Lincolns Birthplace is beautifully maintained and has a cool visitors center. It's a nice way to kill a couple hours.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20301 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:19 am to
The hard reality is that 2nd and 3rd tier sites like that are very poorly attended.

Everyone wants to see Gettysburg or Yorktown, but the places that don’t get covered in the school books are easy targets when it comes time for budget cuts.

And yes, at a federal level there is 100% an effort underway to discredit and defund places that don’t fit the social and cultural narratives that the political class is trying to set.

It’ll take a concerted effort to get those sites back up both at the political and private level like what I mentioned about the American Battlefield Trust to purchase, renovate and maintain these sites.

One of the best examples is the Battle of Franklin south of Nashville. It was a massive and horrible battle but when you get to the park there’s a nice primary site where the Union had battle lines with a house with bullet holes, but when you look south 50 yards away is a warehouse and modern road sitting where thousands of men were killed and wounded. Because in some areas the land wasn’t preserved or was privately owned and became valuable ruining the battlefield.

It’s not a priority at the federal level so unless people who care get involved those places will continue to be lost to history and development.
Posted by StanSmith
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:24 am to
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Andrew Jackson brought together a motley crew to fight the Battle of New Orleans, a battle that helped shape America’s self-image.

Another great American victory over the Brits by a motley crew of soldiers was the Battle of Kings Mountain during the Revolutionary War. The settlers of the Appalachains in VA, NC and what is now TN came together to put an epic arse whopping on the red coats. Like the Battle of NO the Brit field commander ended up taking a dirt nap. Went to the battlefield last September. Pretty cool place. Not far from their is the Cowpens battlefield. The victory at Cowpens convinced the British they weren't going to subdue the Carolinas.
Posted by Swamp Angel
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Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:24 am to
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because Lincolns birthplace is outside Hodgenville which is over an hour away.


Thank you for correcting me. I always get mixed up with this one because of seeing the sign for Hodgenville near the Hopkinsville sign heading toward E-town on Bluegrass Pkwy from Lexington. (I'd probably wind up in Mayfield thinking I was heading toward Maysville without someone checking my navigation!)
Posted by PacoPicopiedra
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:27 am to
My great-great grandfather was there as a 15 year old private.

Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:45 am to
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My great-great grandfather was there as a 15 year old private.

Whoa how cool is that! Although it would be three or four "greats" ... I think, I dunno, hard to figure that stuff. All depends. I had great great AND great great great grandfathers and uncles fight in the War of Northern Aggression.

Upvoted!

Posted by PacoPicopiedra
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:06 am to
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Whoa how cool is that! Although it would be three or four "greats" ... I think, I dunno, hard to figure that stuff. All depends. I had great great AND great great great grandfathers and uncles fight in the War of Northern Aggression.


Yeah, always thought it was pretty cool. His oldest son was Michel III (my great uncle). It mentions him at the bottom of the article fighting at the Battle of San Jacinto.

Michel II married twice and had 21 kids total (born between 1818 and 1869) with 2 different wives over his life. His second wife, my great great grandmother, was 16 when he married her after the death of his first wife. He was in his 50's. Different times. He was a rancher running cattle between his lands in Southwest Louisiana/Southeast Texas.

My great - grandfather (Ozan) was the youngest of the 21 kids. My great -grandfather was born in 1869 and died in 1938. His son, my grandfather, was born in 1906 and died in 1994.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:16 am to
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This article lost me in the second paragraph when he says the battle was "unnecessary." The Treaty of Ghent hadn't been ratified and we were still at war. And the British were not acquiescing in the validity of the Louisiana Purchase. Had they taken New Orleans there is a chance that they would not have given it back


Very true. Id say there’s a better than 50% chance they’d try to keep New Orleans and all of the original Louisiana Territory.
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