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Playoff Seeding Screws the top 2 Seeds
Posted on 12/21/24 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 12/21/24 at 6:52 pm
It is pretty disgusting that the #1 seed will have to play the winner of Ohio State and Tenn, and #2 Seed GA will play ND, while #6 seed Penn State draws (cough cough) #3 seed Boise State (Penn State will be double digit favorite, and #5 seed Texas draws #4 seed Arizona State. Texas will be 14 point favorites. The seeding are a complete joke, and the top 2 teams are definitely not rewarded. It is almost like Texas has been designated all year to win the championship, starting with the joke of an SEC schedule that surely had to be given to them on purpose, then the playoff games of Clemson and Arizona State (Clemson wasn't even sniffing playoffs until beating SMU to win the ACC).
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 6:58 pm to Mandtgr47
Texas has had a pathetic schedule. And their route to the semi-finals is suspiciously easy. The playoffs have sucked thus far. Maybe they'll improve.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:13 pm to DmitriKaramazov
I wish Boise State would win the whole damned thing.
I am sick of the SEC and the Big10. No LSU means I will pull for every team that plays an SEC team.
I am sick of the SEC and the Big10. No LSU means I will pull for every team that plays an SEC team.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:15 pm to GeorgeWest
I'll pull for boise, or oregon. Can't stand texas.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:16 pm to Mandtgr47
If you are the number 1 team (seed), you want to play the best. This is what we wanted. How many times in years past of the CFP have people said "the number 1 seed has it easy. They get to play Oklahoma or whoever the 4 seed outside of Alabama".
It should be hard. It is the playoffs. No team should have it easy. The first round sure bc the higher seeds are playing at home. Once you get to 2nd round it should be harder.
It should be hard. It is the playoffs. No team should have it easy. The first round sure bc the higher seeds are playing at home. Once you get to 2nd round it should be harder.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:18 pm to Tblock
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or oregon
I hope Phil Knight lives 500 more years and never witnesses an Oregon natty
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:27 pm to Mandtgr47
How else will the committee earn that pocket money?
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:28 pm to DmitriKaramazov
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Texas has had a pathetic schedule. And their route to the semi-finals is suspiciously easy.
Penn State didn’t have a ranked win and gets SMU and Boise
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:30 pm to MasterKnight
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If you are the number 1 team (seed), you want to play the best. This is what we wanted. How many times in years past of the CFP have people said "the number 1 seed has it easy. They get to play Oklahoma or whoever the 4 seed outside of Alabama".
It should be hard. It is the playoffs. No team should have it easy. The first round sure bc the higher seeds are playing at home. Once you get to 2nd round it should be harder.
There’s a reason the seeding system exists. By being the #1 seed you get rewarded. Why should the #12 seed have an easier path than a team that outperformed them all year?
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:31 pm to Mandtgr47
One way to fix this is to keep the 5 conference champions as automatic entrants and select the next seven as we do now.
At this point (once the field is complete), then you seed the 12 teams by some metric regardless of conference.
Top 4 get the bye. The next four get the home game in the first round.
At this point (once the field is complete), then you seed the 12 teams by some metric regardless of conference.
Top 4 get the bye. The next four get the home game in the first round.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:36 pm to Mandtgr47
16 team field with no bye makes sense. #16 at #1, #15 at #2 and so forth. Conference champions are simply that with no advantage to CFP ranking other than likely getting a bump in actual ranking. The ranking dictates the seeding. Simple as 1-16, period.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:34 pm to LSBoosie
The 12th seed have an easier path? How? They play on the road for first game. Did they win? No
The 1st seed has a bye. Then play the lowest seed remaining in the next round.
How is that not setting the number 1 seed up for success?
The 1st seed has a bye. Then play the lowest seed remaining in the next round.
How is that not setting the number 1 seed up for success?
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:40 pm to MasterKnight
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The 1st seed has a bye. Then play the lowest seed remaining in the next round.
As it should be. The problem now is that the teams aren’t seeded correctly which screws up the entire point of having a seeding system.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:46 pm to Mandtgr47
The purpose of the bracket is to crown a champion, not level the playing.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 9:21 pm to LSBoosie
How are they not seeded properly? Who is not ranked where they should be? All teams that have a bye are teams that win their conference. Why should they be penalized?
Posted on 12/21/24 at 9:39 pm to MasterKnight
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All teams that have a bye are teams that win their conference.
We know. That’s the part that messes it up, there shouldn’t be auto byes. The number #9 and #12 overall seeds should not get byes. It messes up the entire point of seeding the teams.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 9:57 pm to BigLSUNut
Exactly I agree do it like the fcs playoffs
5 auto bids
7 at large bids
Conference champions are not guaranteed top 4 seeds all based on playoff rankings just like the fcs playoffs
First round bye:
1 Oregon
2 Georgia
3 Texas
4 Penn State
First round playoffs:
12 Clemson @ 5 Notre Dame
11 Arizona State @ 6 Ohio State
10 SMU @ 7 Tennessee
9 Boise State @ 8 Indiana
5 auto bids
7 at large bids
Conference champions are not guaranteed top 4 seeds all based on playoff rankings just like the fcs playoffs
First round bye:
1 Oregon
2 Georgia
3 Texas
4 Penn State
First round playoffs:
12 Clemson @ 5 Notre Dame
11 Arizona State @ 6 Ohio State
10 SMU @ 7 Tennessee
9 Boise State @ 8 Indiana
This post was edited on 12/21/24 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:14 pm to LSBoosie
The #9 seed and #12 seed did not get byes. They are playing on the road. Seeds #1-4 got the byes.
If you win your conference and get a 1-4 seed, you get a bye. That was the agreement for expansion. If there was no agreement, then there is no expansion.
Your whole argument is flawed. No one was seeded wrong. The number 1 seed still gets the lowest seed remaining team. It will never be perfect bc it is based on rankings but I feel the teams were seeded as they should be seeded.
If you win your conference and get a 1-4 seed, you get a bye. That was the agreement for expansion. If there was no agreement, then there is no expansion.
Your whole argument is flawed. No one was seeded wrong. The number 1 seed still gets the lowest seed remaining team. It will never be perfect bc it is based on rankings but I feel the teams were seeded as they should be seeded.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:19 pm to bayou1234
If conference champions are not guaranteed bye, why do you have Penn State higher seeds than ND?
You think Penn State could beat ND? I don't like ND but I think their team is better than Penn State.
That is the reason for conference champions get the bye. Everyone will be bitching about ND schedule if they get a first round bye. According to your suggestion, they would get a bye.
Also if conference champions do not get a bye, what is the incentive for playing in the conference championship game. UGA lost their starting QB and they would be in the CFP. The reason they wanted to win was to get the bye.
You think Penn State could beat ND? I don't like ND but I think their team is better than Penn State.
That is the reason for conference champions get the bye. Everyone will be bitching about ND schedule if they get a first round bye. According to your suggestion, they would get a bye.
Also if conference champions do not get a bye, what is the incentive for playing in the conference championship game. UGA lost their starting QB and they would be in the CFP. The reason they wanted to win was to get the bye.
This post was edited on 12/21/24 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 12/21/24 at 11:07 pm to MasterKnight
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The #9 seed and #12 seed did not get byes. They are playing on the road. Seeds #1-4 got the byes.
I’m not talking about the #9 and #12 seeded teams. I’m talking about the #9 and #12 ranked teams.
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If you win your conference and get a 1-4 seed, you get a bye. That was the agreement for expansion.
We fricking know. I’m saying it’s stupid.
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