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Basketball @ SMU Saturday (3pm ESPNU)

Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:59 am
Posted by S
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:59 am
Just looking at their roster and they have former Tiger Jerrell Colbert, former recruit Yohan Traore and former UGA player Oquendo. Nice squad, just beat Virginia. Losses to Mississippi State and Butler. Should be a good test on the road.

Oh and gotta contain Boopie.
This post was edited on 12/14/24 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:04 am to
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UGA player Oquendo.


Oquendo is a pretty good player I think he dropped 30 on Will Wade's last team.


SMU's defense is pretty bad but yet they block a bunch of shots and they get after the offensive glass. They apparently have this giant Turk who is pretty good

Hell just realized their coach is Andy Enfield. This could really end up being a nice win at the end of the season.
This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 11:06 am
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:21 am to
Probably the 2nd best team Lsu has played. Advanced analytics say SMU by 4-6 pts.
Posted by LaBR4
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:22 am to
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This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 11:28 am
Posted by DhanTigers212
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:26 am to
If I’m reading the NET rankings correctly this is a Quad 1 win opportunity. Could go a long way at the end of the year if we’re on the bubble.
Posted by Pmac96
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:27 am to
Not a great matchup for LSU
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:29 am to
Who had SMU being LSU's best non-conf. game this year? Not me. But that COULD be the case. At minimum, it would be LSU's best non-conf. win (to date) and almost assure them of a 12-1 non-conf. record because the last three opponents LSU will face in the non-conf. schedule suck with a capital "S"! If the line is not out already, expect SMU to be a slight favorite. Probably somewhere in the 1.5 - 3.5 range.

In his introductory press conf. McMahon talked about wanted to be "balanced" on both ends of the floor and how that was a key to success. He's right. The biggest negative of Wade's teams were they were almost always significantly imbalanced. Often being elite offensively and awful defensively...until that flipped in his final season. To his credit, McMahon's LSU teams have been balanced. Unfortunately, that balance was being equally below average (last year) to awful (year 1) on BOTH ends of the floor. Last year LSU was exactly balanced. 99th in both offensive and defensive efficiency. They are balanced again this year. Right now 56 in both offensive efficiency. While that is certainly an improvement from his first two teams, on the whole it's roughly about average among major conf. opponents and well below average in the SEC. LSU is 14th of 16 SEC teams in the KP rankings. For their part, SMU is really imbalanced this season. Thus far they have been a good offensive team...and a pretty bad defensive team.

SMU can score. They shoot the ball pretty well from both inside and outside the arc, as well as the FT line. They have been a great rebounding team (top 12 nationally). They don't turn the ball over a ton and they share the ball pretty well. On defense they don't defend the 3 very well and have a tendency to foul. LSU has been pretty good shooting inside the arc. Not so much outside. They are a decent FT shooting team as long as the right guys are getting to the line. They've been very good at defending the 3 and on the offensive glass. They've also been a good shot blocking team (Collins and Chest leading the way)

IMO, the best thing you can say about LSU this year is the generally have been able to find what they need when they need it. They don't always shoot the 3 well...but have found it at times when they had to have it. They don't rebound well...but they've found it when they needed it. The offense can seemingly flip a switch from shite to great in a half (and has multiple times this year)

I expect it to be like several LSU games this year. It times they will look like the Washington Generals and frustrate the shite out of you. Then, someone will go on a heater and all of a sudden the game is tight or LSU is winning. I like LSU late in a close game. LSU has veteran closers in Cater/Sears with a freshman, Miller, who might be a better closer than both....if he can find a way to hit an open three (the only thing he's been really bad at this year)

This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 11:34 am
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:35 am to
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If I’m reading the NET rankings correctly this is a Quad 1 win opportunity.


yes and our other wins we thought were solid early are not looking so good now - K-State's Net is 102 and Fla. St. is 81 Net and that was a home game, so a Quad 1 Road win will help seeing how strong the SEC is this year. I mean - State got in with an 8-10 record last year, and the SEC is stronger this year. SMU is 42 NET.
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:49 am to
I live in Denton so I am going. Whos going
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33693 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:50 am to
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State got in with an 8-10 record last year, and the SEC is stronger this year. SMU is 42 NET.


What helped State quite a bit was they beat Northwestern and Washington State (both NCAAT teams) at neutral sites. It's not LSU's fault Kanas State and Florida State haven't been very good, but those wins aren't helping as much as you hoped they would (at least as of now). IMO, that means LSU needs to have as high a quantity of OOC wins because the quality might not be there. That's kind of what happened with Ole Miss last year. They didn't beat anyone great in the OOC schedule, but they went 13-0. That at least gave them a decent margin for error in SEC play. Even at 6-5 in SEC play in mid February they were still trending for a NCAAT bid. It was them shitting the bed in the final month of the season that did them in. Still, at 20-11 (7-11) they were the SEC's highest rated NET team that didn't make the tournament (they declined the NIT bid)
Posted by 420
Member since Nov 2024
120 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:53 am to
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Probably the 2nd best team Lsu has played.


Either 2nd or 3rd. Definitely not as good as Pitt and definitely not as bad as Kansas St. I think SMU is comparable to UCF talent wise.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33693 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:59 am to
To whatever extent it is relevant LSU is 3-1 against the spread vs. major conf. opponents. SMU is 2-2. That's probably more evidence LSU has been able to be better when they have to.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:07 pm to
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Either 2nd or 3rd. Definitely not as good as Pitt and definitely not as bad as Kansas St. I think SMU is comparable to UCF talent wise.


SMU is much better offensively than UCF.
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:13 pm to
Wife and I will be there. Just got 2 tickets for cheap.
Posted by tarzana
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:13 pm to
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could really end up being a nice win

They're solid. That's a huge COULD-- intestinal fortitude from these Tigers needs to be a team player Saturday.
Posted by lsudave1
Baton Metairie
Member since Jan 2005
11244 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:13 pm to
This is traditionally a game where LSU basketball would trip up because we’ve been gaining momentum and catching the attention of the fan base. I hope this year is different. I believe!
Posted by Wasp
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Member since Sep 2012
1526 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:18 pm to
Anyone know the status of Trey’dez Green? Is he still planning to play basketball? Will we have to wait u til after the bowl game?
Posted by Kool Kaliper
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Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:19 pm to
Got my tickets..
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30414 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:20 pm to
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I hope this year is different

It really feels different -- I got the feeling after the second game in Greenbrier. Best I've felt about Tiger basketball since the third year of Wade
Posted by 420
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:21 pm to
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SMU is much better offensively than UCF.


True, but SMU also gave up 80+ to the 2 teams they've played this year with a pulse
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