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Disney’s The Hunchback of Notre Dame

Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:07 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:07 pm
So with Notre Dame reopening this week, I think it’s worth diving into this classic from them. If you remove the Gargoyles, the film is an absolute masterpiece and Disney’s finest Renaissance film with the possible exception of Beauty and the Beast.

The score and visuals are just downright epic in this movie and may be the strongest of all their 2-D films. Just how in depth they get with Notre Dame is just pure eye candy, and the organs, violins, and choirs take the score to the next level.

Quasimodo and Esmeralda are great characters, but the centerpiece is clearly the villain, Frollo. Frollo in my opinion is the greatest Disney villain, and certainly the darkest. His brilliant musical number is about justifying raping and murdering a teenage girl and blaming her for it. And he burns down half of Paris and tries a genocide all to get his rocks off. Plus I think most of us have met a Frollo, making him all the more disturbing.

But if you haven’t seen it, check it out. Links to YouTube for some of the musical pieces:

The Bells of Notre Dame

Out There

Hellfire


But yeah, the Gargoyles blow and fast forward through any scene they’re in.
Posted by SpaceCamp
Member since Nov 2020
521 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:37 pm to
God Help the Outcasts makes me cry every time I hear it. Just an absolutely beautiful song.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155599 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:39 pm to
I couldn’t disagree more. It’s low-tier Disney IMO. It just isn’t all that great to me for whatever reason.

I know you love it though, and I know you think one of the songs is one of the GOAT Disney songs.

I enjoyed this one but it definitely missed on me. I also didn’t watch it until about 10-15 years ago. So maybe it just doesn’t hold up well. But it’s nowhere near top tier from that renaissance period of the late 80s to late 90s/early 00s IMO.
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 5:42 am
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51648 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:41 pm to
Hellfire might be my favorite Disney song up there with Be Prepared, Make a man out of you, and Eye To Eye
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 8:19 pm to
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It’s low-tier Disney IMO


Low tier Disney is like The Sword in the Stone, Home on the Range, Oliver & Company, and the Black Cauldron. Just for the ambition, the shots, and the soundtrack it’s at least mid-tier Disney by default.

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So maybe it just doesn’t hold up well.


Outside of the gargoyles I think it does. It’s just brilliantly written and Frollo is simultaneously one of the most realistic but terrifying villains Disney has ever produced.

I miss this in general from current Disney. The last good villain that the studio has produced is King Candy and Ernesto De La Cruz if you want to include Pixar in that. We are in a villain drought, and one is very much needed.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38460 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 8:22 pm to
You know my feelings here....

It's probably their best... film. Not best animated movie for kids, but is the most accomplished and interesting creation.

Using a choir in the music. The "cinematography" throughout the film. The animation. It's just brilliant. But it's is vastly different in approach. It's barely a kids movie and that's It's problem.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 8:27 pm to
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But it's is vastly different in approach. It's barely a kids movie and that's It's problem.


Yeah, I know the live action version has been in preproduction for like six years, but I don’t see how you can’t make it PG-13 to do the film justice. Charles Dance (Tywin Lannister) would kill it as Frollo and probably get an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor if they could pull it off.
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 8:30 pm
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13616 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:13 pm to
Friend,

It was the summer of 1996 and Mother had signed up the family for complimentary tickets in the Superdome for the world premiere of this movie. We walked to the French Quarter that morning, a typical muggy June morning. A Disney parade strolled down Canal and we caught just a few beads, as this was a Disney parade without many throws. We followed the throngs of people to the Superdome.

We had tickets for a suite, which was quite nice and all of us were thrilled to be there. Then the movie played. It was not one of Disney’s finest moments. I had not watched it since until two or three years ago while at a cousin’s house who wanted to see it. It was as average as my twelve year old mind remembered.

It was the last time I went to a movie premiere until being invited to The Prytania for the premiere of The Blind Side in 2009, which was equally unfulfilling, although when I talked to Sandra Bullock at the after party, I fibbed and told her I enjoyed it.

Yours,
TulaneLSU
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25396 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 8:25 am to
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Low tier Disney is like The Sword in the Ston


Bruh, you can go to hell, lol. The Sword in the Stone is one of the greatest Disney cartoons of all time.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 8:43 am to
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Bruh, you can go to hell, lol. The Sword in the Stone is one of the greatest Disney cartoons of all time


There is not really a plot in the Sword in the Stone. Just a bunch of random stories jumbled together and then in the end Arthur just pulls the sword out of the stone. And the animation is very subpar for Disney as well.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74585 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 8:55 am to
Frollo maybe the most evil character and sadly most human villain ever created by Disney.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25396 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:26 am to
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There is not really a plot in the Sword in the Stone. Just a bunch of random stories jumbled together and then in the end Arthur just pulls the sword out of the stone. And the animation is very subpar for Disney as well.


It’s a really fun story that you can tell the creators had a lot of fun making. The wizard battle between Merlin and Mim, the animal change scenes, Wart being treated like he didn’t belong…the whole story is a fun ride through a young boy’s journey. Animation may not be as good as others, but the entertainment factor of that show is incredible.
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