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re: Tournament Baseball is a scam
Posted on 1/11/09 at 10:11 pm to mametoo
Posted on 1/11/09 at 10:11 pm to mametoo
The real problem is that baseball is now seen as a suburban sport for white kids in the US. It is no longer seen as a "way out." This type of attitude is to get kids to receive college scholarships, not a professional career. This is why the US is way behind in the fundemental developement of basketball and soccer versus the rest of the world. Kids in Europe are pros at age 14-16 in both sports and have unlimited practice time and world class coaching. The college system only developes football players worthy, on a fundamental basis, of being pros. The Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, and even some of the Asian countries do a MUCH BETTER job of professional preparedness than does college in any sport other than football. That is only because we are the only country where an individual can make a living playing American Football.
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Posted on 1/11/09 at 10:13 pm to mametoo
Youth baseball. I opened a 30,000 sq ft indoor baseball training facility in 99 and its still in business. We have literally trained over 10,000 kids. By no means would I say I have anywhere near the baseball experience that 3520 has but with kids im sure I have much more.
This post was edited on 1/11/09 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 1/11/09 at 10:14 pm to lsu480
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Youth baseball. I opened an 30,000 sq ft indoor baseball training facility in 99 and its still in business. We have literally trained over 10,000 kids. By no means would I say I have anywhere near the baseball experience that 3520 has but with kids im sure I have much more.
Ok. Just wondering.
Posted on 1/11/09 at 10:16 pm to mametoo
Anyone that has kids in the Phoenix area that wants to come in just let me know and ill take care of your first few times for free....
Posted on 1/12/09 at 7:19 am to SlowFlowPro
this thread cracks me up .. a bunch of parents living out their athletic failures and trying to atone for them through their kids while at the same time trying to justify maxing out three credit cards to put their 9 year old on a traveling baseball team ..
Posted on 1/12/09 at 7:49 am to lsu480
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I am pretty sure I have more experience,or at least as much, with youth baseball as any poster on this board
you live the life
drugs
baseball
and little kids
Posted on 1/12/09 at 7:55 am to LfcSU3520
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If you can tell me Dominican kids right now, who are playing with milk cartons for gloves and rolled up yarn for balls, are paying 2g to play on "traveling" teams then I'll say there's something to it.
This is pure greatness. Well said 3520.
Posted on 1/12/09 at 8:40 am to TigahRag
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this thread cracks me up .. a bunch of parents living out their athletic failures and trying to atone for them through their kids while at the same time trying to justify maxing out three credit cards to put their 9 year old on a traveling baseball team ..
Spoken like a man without kids. It's sad but today it's almost not optional if little Johnny wants to even have a chance to play baseball, soccer, volleyball, golf etc in high school. Going out for the high school team without it is like going for a job without a college degree when everyone else has one. It's actually a form of extorsion.
This post was edited on 1/12/09 at 8:55 am
Posted on 1/12/09 at 9:19 am to Rockerbraves
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it's almost not optional if little Johnny wants to even have a chance to play baseball
to this I say horsehockey! You have bought the lie my friend. This bs stinks to high heaven. My wife and I have already discussed this and have reached agreement that our kids will not be playing year round or travel team in any sport before high school.
It teaches them that sports is more important than everything else in life. As for me and my house, we will not buy the lie. If they are talented enough they will still be able to play varsity in High School and get a scholarship. Tons of kids whose parents are shelling out thousands so they can be on the traveling all star teams are never going to be good enough to play college ball. The ones who do do make it, could easily get there without the year round play.
Posted on 1/12/09 at 9:30 am to Tiger Ryno
Not saying little Johnny can't play other sports because most travels teams don't require year round. In baseball it's more like March thru June. The problem you will likely encounter if you oppose paying $$$ is that Little Johnny won't be playing baseball on the same team as his so called athletic friends.
Posted on 1/12/09 at 9:32 am to mametoo
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Who knew it cost so much to be able to brag about your kid?
I agree. It'd be much easier and cheaper to come on a message board and talk about how your 4 year old son said "Geaux Tigers" at a playground in front of a bunch of people who could care less.
Posted on 1/12/09 at 9:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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you live the life
I like it! Much better than living in butt frick Louisiana practicing shitty law and trying to IRL internet girls.
Posted on 1/12/09 at 9:45 am to Rockerbraves
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Going out for the high school team without it is like going for a job without a college degree when everyone else has one. It's actually a form of extorsion.
i went to the best baseball school in the state, and it is as tight-knit as you can imagine, and this is all bullshite
if you're good enough, then you'll play
Posted on 1/12/09 at 9:46 am to PiscesTiger
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I agree. It'd be much easier and cheaper to come on a message board and talk about how your 4 year old son said "Geaux Tigers" at a playground in front of a bunch of people who could care less
Posted on 1/12/09 at 9:48 am to lsu480
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Much better than living in butt frick Louisiana
it's not THAT bad where i live
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practicing shitty law
what is "shitty law"
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and trying to IRL internet girls.
you're comin at my guy all wrong...
e-girls try to irl me
Posted on 1/12/09 at 9:52 am to Rockerbraves
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Going out for the high school team without it is like going for a job without a college degree when everyone else has one.
Completely agree
Esp with baseball and basketball.
Posted on 1/12/09 at 9:54 am to LatarionMilton
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Completely agree
Esp with baseball and basketball.
if you're good enough, then you'll play
no coach is that stupid, even Barbe's coach
Posted on 1/12/09 at 9:54 am to SlowFlowPro
I agree that the whole flying kids in to play and the whole idea of the over the top travel teams are a bit far fetched, but a baseball team traveling to play tournaments isn't at all a bad thing.
Growing up I played with most of the same kids through middle school and although we wern't all from the same school, we were all Baton Rouge kids. My teams played league play with American Legion and then Rough Cuts. We would play some weekend tournaments in Baton Rouge, Walker, and Port Allen. At the end of every season we would play one tournament in Florida as a end of the season treat or vacation. These tournaments are some of the best memories from my childhood and I guarantee my teammates feel the same way. The kids from my middle school teams are still some of my best friends in college right now and we loved playing together.
Growing up I played with most of the same kids through middle school and although we wern't all from the same school, we were all Baton Rouge kids. My teams played league play with American Legion and then Rough Cuts. We would play some weekend tournaments in Baton Rouge, Walker, and Port Allen. At the end of every season we would play one tournament in Florida as a end of the season treat or vacation. These tournaments are some of the best memories from my childhood and I guarantee my teammates feel the same way. The kids from my middle school teams are still some of my best friends in college right now and we loved playing together.
Posted on 1/12/09 at 10:02 am to SlowFlowPro
I was just fricking with you..I got no problems with you.
Posted on 1/12/09 at 10:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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if you're good enough, then you'll play
Easy to say, but in reality those kids who do play on travel teams aren't totally wasting their $$$. In most cases they do get better instruction and gain valuable game experience which gives them a competitive advantage.
No one is denying there are the exceptions, but it's hard to deny it doesn't increase their chances of success.
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