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First revenue sharing agreement

Posted on 11/26/24 at 5:23 pm
Posted by GeauxFish31
Member since May 2024
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 5:23 pm
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I hope there is enough brains in the AD that LSU needs to start thinking like professional teams. And not rely on these bullshite NIL John Deer deals for players.
Posted by GeauxldMember
Member since Nov 2003
5501 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 5:43 pm to
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I hope there is enough brains in the AD that LSU needs to start thinking like professional teams. And not rely on these bullshite NIL John Deer deals for players.


It’s a move in the right direction, but is still going to be a shite show for a while. Title IX applies to rev sharing, but no one has given any guidance on what that actually means from a percentage standpoint. Expect that to end up in the courts at some future date when some women’s soccer player decides she’s worth every bit as much as QB 1.

Also, I expect the unlimited transfer bullshite to be hashed out, but how will outside NIL deals and collectives be dealt with? Will they still be allowed in addition to rev sharing and uncapped? Who’s going to police it all?

I hate to sound negative, but I expect this to be an untamed frontier for longer than any of us hope.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13318 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:00 pm to
Just end college sports if this is where it is headed.

These “students” can play in a semi pro league funded by their respective professional leagues instead of getting it free from universities.

If $200,000 in free education, housing, food, etc isn’t enough compensation, they can go get a real job and earn money.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20699 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:16 pm to
And get fired after they don’t make the roster and be uneducated.
F them all. Stop the fraud called amateur college sports.
Posted by GeauxldMember
Member since Nov 2003
5501 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:50 pm to
I get the sentiment, but this is where the sport is going, like it or not.
Posted by GeauxFish31
Member since May 2024
2718 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:53 pm to
Agreed
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:38 pm to
Theres not a market for semi pro football though. It would be easier if there was. At this point, theres nothing better except joining the NFL. Perhaps the NFL can get rid of the 3 year requirement to be out of HS but few kids would be ready before then anyway.

Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
2261 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:27 am to
Won't revenue sharing simply raise the floor for compensation while NIL simply exists as it always has on top of the revenue sharing?

How does revenue sharing fix anything? Serious question.
Posted by GeauxldMember
Member since Nov 2003
5501 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 10:20 am to
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Won't revenue sharing simply raise the floor for compensation while NIL simply exists as it always has on top of the revenue sharing? How does revenue sharing fix anything? Serious question.


These are all unknowns. It’s assumed that the collectives with go away, but the NIL deals like Cane’s, Get Gordon, etc. will likely remain in place. How that piece will be policed to avoid what we all know it will become is the multi-billion dollar question.

I do expect the big thing rev sharing and “collective bargaining” is likely to change is the unlimited transfer bullshite though, so that will be big.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 1:41 pm to
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If $200,000 in free education, housing, food, etc isn’t enough compensation, they can go get a real job and earn money.


As much money as they're now making, they need to start paying for all of that.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78347 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 3:03 pm to
[quote]Just end college sports if this is where it is headed. These “students” can play in a semi pro league funded by their respective professional leagues instead of getting it free from universities.[/quote

the NFL doesn’t want that
the College Athletic Departments don’t want that
the Players don’t want that
most fans don’t want that
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9629 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 3:25 pm to
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Theres not a market for semi pro football though.


Probably not but the powers that be are creating a de facto semi or minor league for football under the guise of college sports with student and alumni loyalty built in. It’s more judicial overreach, but due to its wealth distribution university presidents are on board and will not challenge it.

NIL going unchecked (or actually NIL being implemented) was based upon one Justice’s concurring opinion in a decision that actually was about education related benefits only and also reaffirmed the NCAA power to define education benefits and to adopt reasonable rules. The NCAA and its universities created the situation and then collectively roll over repeatedly like they had nothing to do with it.

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Perhaps the NFL can get rid of the 3 year requirement to be out of HS but few kids would be ready before then anyway.

The NFL and NFLPA are not going to budge on their collective agreement about eligibility starting 3 years after high school. NFL isn’t going to want to do away with its free developmental system, and the NFLPA probably doesn’t want a quick flooding of the market of available players without additional franchises added.

This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 4:29 pm
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/27/24 at 3:37 pm to
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Probably not


It's not probably not. It just isn't. A high school game outdraws UFL games. UFL requires betting to be somewhat marketable. I only see one outcome long term. Kids get paid NIL and become university employees. Other than that, there's no place this kids would go, NIL caps will be considered illegal, and there's too much infrastructure in place at schools that they would miss out in a UFL type situation. CFB will be here in 20 years. It will look way different, but nothing is going to replace it in our lifetimes.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Member since Nov 2009
7064 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 3:43 pm to
Also, I support making the kids employees and getting rid of signing day. It's too big of a circus. Want to commit to LSU? Sign your employee paperwork. Want to decommit? There a termination clause if you decide to leave early. Sucks, but the kids have been guided into treating this like a professional career by agents and gurus. It's getting to the point of actually hurting the sport because the product has declined a bit. It's going to take many teams several games to get stable each year with turnover.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9629 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:01 pm to
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quote:

If $200,000 in free education, housing, food, etc isn’t enough compensation, they can go get a real job and earn money.


As much money as they're now making, they need to start paying for all of that.


Along with their own athletic development outside of team practices and games and educational development.

$ spent on facilities, coaching staff including advisors, training staff, athletic support staff, and tutoring along with other academic help needs to be reduced if not cut completely with some.

If they want to go pro they can train themselves or hire someone. Same with additional hands on coaching/teaching of the sport.

If they need help in school they can pay for it. If they need help getting out of trouble they can also pay for it themselves.

Getting admitted and a full scholarship is a complete gift for some players with poor academic records.

They can also cover all health related expenses outside injuries during practices and games.

They can take money out of their shared revenue and NIL to pay their family and/or get them jobs.

Obviously under the table paying has to completely stop if not already done, but its replacement of getting donors to fund NIL to buy players also needs to stop. True NIL and revenue sharing should be more than enough. Any school wanting to continue buying needs to form their own minor league.

Many seem to think players were getting nothing back from the university, so none of the above should affect them.
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 4:48 pm
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