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Yesterday we had $160,242,895 sitting out due to injury
Posted on 11/21/24 at 6:22 am
Posted on 11/21/24 at 6:22 am
Our 2024-25 team payroll is just north of $174 million.
In just our 16th game of the season, we had 92% of our payroll sidelined due to injury.
I know that this is not news to anybody on this board, but this is truly WILD.
There is probably not a small business, large corporation, team, or governmental body that can stay afloat with 92% of their payroll not coming to work. WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE?????
In just our 16th game of the season, we had 92% of our payroll sidelined due to injury.
I know that this is not news to anybody on this board, but this is truly WILD.
There is probably not a small business, large corporation, team, or governmental body that can stay afloat with 92% of their payroll not coming to work. WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE?????
This post was edited on 11/21/24 at 6:25 am
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Posted on 11/21/24 at 6:37 am to hassan whiteside
Our 2024-25 team payroll is just north of $174 million.
It always starts at the top. First start with the owner, then Griff and finally get to Willie. No one wants to play for the pelicans, coaches don't want to coach the pelicans. You have a really bad culture problem there.
It always starts at the top. First start with the owner, then Griff and finally get to Willie. No one wants to play for the pelicans, coaches don't want to coach the pelicans. You have a really bad culture problem there.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 6:56 am to jonjonsmith
Not a serious franchise. I feel sorry for the season tickets holders. Pay all that money and this management says”frick you fans, we got your money “
Posted on 11/21/24 at 6:57 am to jonjonsmith
He gets it .
The franchise has alienated the fan base . Ppl spent money on tickets , league pass, etc to get this garbage.
The excitement is long gone , anger /frustration towards the team has come and gone. total apathy has set it.
Gayle has to make a move starting with the POBO
The franchise has alienated the fan base . Ppl spent money on tickets , league pass, etc to get this garbage.
The excitement is long gone , anger /frustration towards the team has come and gone. total apathy has set it.
Gayle has to make a move starting with the POBO
Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:45 am to AboveTheRim
I mean this screams conditioning and health training issues. We’ve been having injuries derail our seasons for years. Also, the Saints have had injury issues this year too. So unless you fix that problem. Nothing will change.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:49 am to jonjonsmith
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No one wants to play for the pelicans, coaches don't want to coach the pelicans. You have a really bad culture problem there.
Yeah this is some fricking bullshite too. You must've been asleep for the past three seasons.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:55 am to whatiknowsofar
When the guy you're trying to build around can't show up to support his teammates with a pulled hamstring, your culture is beyond repair. Zion has to go.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 8:58 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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When the guy you're trying to build around can't show up to support his teammates with a pulled hamstring, your culture is beyond repair. Zion has to go.
Zion not holding up his end of the deal isn't on the fricking team. It's on Zion.
The greatest coach of all time in one of the greatest organizations of all time couldn't get Shaq to show up in shape. Did the Lakers have a culture problem? Did Phil Jackson not do his job?
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:01 am to whatiknowsofar
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The greatest coach of all time in one of the greatest organizations of all time couldn't get Shaq to show up in shape. Did the Lakers have a culture problem? Did Phil Jackson not do his job?
No because they won championships. If Zion and pels did that here- no one would complain. I’m sorry this is a bad comparison.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:01 am to whatiknowsofar
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Zion not holding up his end of the deal isn't on the fricking team. It's on Zion.
Some of us realized 3 years ago that Zion was the problem. The fact that the front office was, and may still be, in denial about it is absolutely on the fricking team. The way they enabled Zion for 5 years has put us where we are.
This post was edited on 11/21/24 at 9:13 am
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:10 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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The way they enabled Zion for 5 years has put us where we are.
Agreed. There needs to be some responsibility by the front office- mainly Griff- on this.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:22 am to Pels_Yaz
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I’m sorry this is a bad comparison.
No it isn't. He's blaming culture on a players conditioning. That's a bullshite excuse.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:25 am to whatiknowsofar
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No it isn't. He's blaming culture on a players conditioning. That's a bullshite excuse.
If you’re not winning championships or competing at a high level and as an organization you are routinely allowing your star player to be out of shape- that is a culture issue. If he can’t stay in shape and be productive- then get him out.
You think Pat Riley would tolerate that in Miami?
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:29 am to Pels_Yaz
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You think Pat Riley would tolerate that in Miami?
Lol Shaq was on that team too. Out of shape.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:32 am to whatiknowsofar
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Lol Shaq was on that team too. Out of shape.
And Riley got on his arse consistently. It was one of the reasons he traded him to Phoenix. They also won a championship before he traded him.
Star players being consistently out of shape is a culture issue because your allowing it to happen. I don’t know how you see it otherwise. In Philadelphia, the culture issue itself is being discussed because Embiid was allowed to consistently be late- didn’t matter when they were competing at a high level. Now its an issue when they’re losing.
This post was edited on 11/21/24 at 9:34 am
Posted on 11/21/24 at 10:10 am to hassan whiteside
Zion is to blame.
Homie needs to be doin yoga every morning and eating like Tom Brady if he wants to stay in the league
He's gotta learn that yes other players don't have to be as strict as he does. His body can't take the wear and tear of the league like other guys can and he has to recognize this.
Homie needs to be doin yoga every morning and eating like Tom Brady if he wants to stay in the league
He's gotta learn that yes other players don't have to be as strict as he does. His body can't take the wear and tear of the league like other guys can and he has to recognize this.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 10:13 am to jonjonsmith
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You have a really bad culture problem there.
It starts with the city
Posted on 11/21/24 at 10:26 am to whatiknowsofar
Shaq was also a guaranteed first ballot Hall of Famer by that point.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 12:34 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Star players being consistently out of shape is a culture issue because your allowing it to happen. I don’t know how you see it otherwise.
Well the Pels put a clause in his contract to maintain weight and Zions own teammates have called him out on it. And yet Zion still isn't in shape.
Seems like you're looking to blame everyone except Zion. The Pels aren't enabling him to show up out of shape. Zions fricking camp is.
Just weird that you think the Pels have a culture problem based on Zions weight. Ingram, CJ, Herb, Trey, etc. All dudes that have put on good weight/stayed in shape.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 1:16 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Well the Pels put a clause in his contract to maintain weight and Zions own teammates have called him out on it. And yet Zion still isn't in shape.
Obviously none of that is working. As an organization they need to take the next step. Actively try to trade him or somehow have a serious sit down with him or his camp to change this behavior.
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Seems like you're looking to blame everyone except Zion. The Pels aren't enabling him to show up out of shape. Zions fricking camp is.
I have blamed Zion a lot. Go look at all my posts this year. Because I put blame on the organization, Im not taking blame off Zion. I don’t know why you would assume this? But I do believe that if an organization continously lets Zion or his camp do whatever they want- they share some sense of responsibility for his actions. Zion wears a jersey that says “New Orleans” on it- not just Zion or his camp. If the pelicans are continually allowing Zion or his camp to do whatever they want without any sense of consequences- they are in a degree responsible. This applies to any business and yes that becomes a part of your culture.
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Just weird that you think the Pels have a culture problem based on Zions weight. Ingram, CJ, Herb, Trey, etc. All dudes that have put on good weight/stayed in shape.
Zion’s weight is part of the culture issue. But its not the only thing. Zion shows no leadership. Dude is not even on the bench half the time to cheer on his teammates and be just a part of the team. You’re telling me the organization can’t require him to do that? This is basic stuff man.
Then there is BI.
Griffin fired SVG because BI didn’t get along with him. Last year’s playoffs BI and Green had issues. He doesn’t show up to Nashville workouts and starts posting weird social media posts likely pertaining to his contract issue. BI comes into this year without an extension- hes a big part of your culture as well and hes not signed long term?
You can talk about CJ, Herb and Trey but reality is culture is defined by your stars and winning. Not by essentially role players. They can add to your culture but shouldn’t be the ones leading the charge. If those guys are your culture leaders- you have a problem.
This organization has a major problem with its stars and cannot win consistently or at a higher level. Thats where the culture issue stems from. Its really simple.
I get your frustration on this season as a fan. But Zion is not ONLY one to blame. There are plenty of guilty parties on this team and organization that led it come to this and they ALL deserve blame.
This post was edited on 11/21/24 at 1:19 pm
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