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CPI is up again, December rate cuts still teed up

Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:00 am
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:00 am
Makes perfect sense.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93089 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:26 am to
Why wouldnt they cut? The replacement numbers were low and everyone knew this headline reading would be higher

Wont be until Jan that the headline readings are lower
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31486 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:34 am to
I certainly don't blame/credit Trump for this last tick down, but I'm curious to see how things shake out going forward. I've said multiple times that I'm very concerned about Trump re: inflation because I think he's going to spend like a Democrat while using the bully pulpit to try to force interest rates back down. I hope he pleasantly surprises me and only does one out of two. I have zero faith in him managing neither.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93089 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:36 am to
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. I have zero faith in him managing neither.


Shocking
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38842 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:43 am to
SDV.. I should be doing final closing in mid to late December.. what’s your estimation of 30 year conventional rates.. 780 credit score
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93089 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:47 am to
quote:

SDV.. I should be doing final closing in mid to late December.. what’s your estimation of 30 year conventional rates.. 780 credit score


I would think we will be in the 6s but be prepared to only hold that for 6mnths

I think you were buying a new build?

Do they offer the 2/1 buydown?

Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31486 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:08 am to
quote:

Shocking

True or false: in his first term, Trump both spent like a Democrat and used the bully pulpit to push for lowering interest rates.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38842 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:09 am to
quote:

Do they offer the 2/1 buydown


Not even sure what that is

I will be happy if I’m in the 6.875 range
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93089 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:17 am to
Are you buying or refi?
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38842 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:21 am to
Buying

New construction
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
9407 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:24 am to
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Trump re: inflation because I think he's going to spend like a Democrat


you haven't been paying attention have you?

Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6924 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:24 am to
quote:

True or false: in his first term, Trump both spent like a Democrat and used the bully pulpit to push for lowering interest rates.



Direct answer: True.

The direct question and answer ignores the environment he was dealt with covid. I think covid REALLY impacted his decisions and focus during his first term. I'm not going to tell you that he's going to be any different this time around, but it sure seems he's ready to reduce waste in the government which is the first president in years and years to be concerned with the spending side of the equation. All you can do is wait and see.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93089 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Buying

New construction


Ask the sellers if they can offer you a credit for a 2/1 buydown

If rates are 6.875 your first years payment will be off a 4.875, year 2 a 5.875 then year 3 is 6.875

You can refi out when you need
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31486 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:33 am to
quote:

Direct answer: True. The direct question and answer ignores the environment he was dealt with covid. I think covid REALLY impacted his decisions and focus during his first term. I'm not going to tell you that he's going to be any different this time around, but it sure seems he's ready to reduce waste in the government which is the first president in years and years to be concerned with the spending side of the equation. All you can do is wait and see.

In response to both replies, but being this one was more thoughtful:

I absolutely have been paying attention (to the former reply), and I agree with you that he’s saying all the right things. However, history has shown that Trump’s attention span leaves much to be desired and that his steadfastness regarding his stated policy positions is… malleable, at best. Trump is much more a populist than an idealist, and when it comes to making actual substantive cuts that are “unpopular”, I don’t think he has the stomach for it. He likes being liked too much.

I’ll say that I have vastly more faith that his administration will cut regulations than I do that it will cut spending in an amount that matters.

And I will be absolute stunned if he doesn’t actively push to reduce interest rates, divorced for any real economic policy reason, just because it will make people like him.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93089 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:37 am to
quote:

you haven't been paying attention have you?



Her TDS wont allow her to pay attention
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40208 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Her TDS wont allow her to pay attention



Cmon bro one RogertheCucker is enough.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31486 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Her TDS wont allow her to pay attention

We’ve already established that you’re either a liar, mentally ill, or both. Petty insults are the only feeble bits of ammunition at your disposal.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93089 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Cmon bro one RogertheCucker is enough.


There is a never ending supply of TDS with you guys

Will be called out forever
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11764 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:39 am to
quote:

True or false: in his first term, Trump both spent like a Democrat


as a percentage of GDP, Spending went down under Trump until Covid.
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1685 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:42 am to
I'm kinda in the opposite camp. Trump was the most dovish president of my lifetime from 17-20--remember him working Powell on twitter for lower rates?
So I would not be surprised if there is some extreme front loaded positioning expecting the same in 25-28. The bar is being set much much higher this time around for a totally different situation.


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