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Zion’s Contract
Posted on 11/10/24 at 10:17 am
Posted on 11/10/24 at 10:17 am
just a recap of his contract.
Guaranteed seasons became non-guaranteed due to games played clause:
2024-25: 50% guaranteed, fully guaranteed 1/7/25
2025-26: non-guaranteed, fully guaranteed 7/15/25
2026-27: non-guaranteed, fully guaranteed 7/15/26
2027-28: non-guaranteed, fully guaranteed 7/15/27
Guarantee triggers exist if certain criteria has been met:
20% of 2025-26 salary becomes guaranteed if passes all six of his weigh-in checkpoints during the 2024-25 season
40% of 2025-26 salary becomes guaranteed if plays >= 41 games during 2024-25 season, additional 20% if plays >= 51 games, remaining 20% if plays >= 61 games.
Salaries for 2026-27 and 2027-28 seasons can be re-guaranteed if above metrics are hit the season prior
Further protections via:
Weight must be less than 295 lbs; body fat monitored
Injury sustained to right foot
So just a reminder, we can actually waive him before January 7th and not owe him a cent after that. Not that I think we should do that, but just reminding everyone of his contract.
I’m curious how the weigh ins have been going.
Guaranteed seasons became non-guaranteed due to games played clause:
2024-25: 50% guaranteed, fully guaranteed 1/7/25
2025-26: non-guaranteed, fully guaranteed 7/15/25
2026-27: non-guaranteed, fully guaranteed 7/15/26
2027-28: non-guaranteed, fully guaranteed 7/15/27
Guarantee triggers exist if certain criteria has been met:
20% of 2025-26 salary becomes guaranteed if passes all six of his weigh-in checkpoints during the 2024-25 season
40% of 2025-26 salary becomes guaranteed if plays >= 41 games during 2024-25 season, additional 20% if plays >= 51 games, remaining 20% if plays >= 61 games.
Salaries for 2026-27 and 2027-28 seasons can be re-guaranteed if above metrics are hit the season prior
Further protections via:
Weight must be less than 295 lbs; body fat monitored
Injury sustained to right foot
So just a reminder, we can actually waive him before January 7th and not owe him a cent after that. Not that I think we should do that, but just reminding everyone of his contract.
I’m curious how the weigh ins have been going.
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Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:00 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:
So just a reminder, we can actually waive him before January 7th and not owe him a cent after that. Not that I think we should do that, but just reminding everyone of his contract.
means low risk:high reward for the teams we trade him to as well.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 4:08 pm to TeddyPadillac
It makes no sense to waive him. We either need to trade him or ride out his contract and pray he improves. Cutting him gives us nothing in return but we’re also still over the cap so we still wouldn’t be able to sign free agents even if his salary is off the books.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:05 pm to TeddyPadillac
295? 
Really set the bar high.
Really set the bar high.
Posted on 11/11/24 at 4:57 am to saintslsupels
quote:
It makes no sense to waive him. We either need to trade him or ride out his contract and pray he improves. Cutting him gives us nothing in return but we’re also still over the cap so we still wouldn’t be able to sign free agents even if his salary is off the books.
It gives us options. If we don't (or can't) move him, then the situation devolves further, he could become a negative or poisonous asset. Instead of having to use assets to get rid of him or taking on bad contracts, we can just walk away. I know everyone wants a major haul instead, but that just may not happen..
Posted on 11/11/24 at 5:27 am to brmark70816
Only way you probably get even a decent, not major, haul would be with a ton of conditions, like number of games played. etc. No way any other team is looking at his history, and believing that they can quickly fix whatever his problem is.
Posted on 11/11/24 at 7:30 am to St Augustine
He has to be bordering right on that 295lb limit.
There's no way he weighs less than 300, and I don't think he ever has since he's been here except his rookie year.
There's supposedly body fat requirements as well in this contract.
There's no way he weighs less than 300, and I don't think he ever has since he's been here except his rookie year.
There's supposedly body fat requirements as well in this contract.
Posted on 11/11/24 at 8:03 am to TeddyPadillac
2022 media day was probably around 300. It's no damn way he was only 15 pounds heavier than Duke. His frame was muscular and lean, he actually lost weight from High School to College because he toned up. He was thinner at Duke than he was at certan points in high school.
Right now his body is more muscular and more fatty everywhere. There's no god damn way right now he's only 15 pounds heavier than Duke. He's around 315-320.
Right now his body is more muscular and more fatty everywhere. There's no god damn way right now he's only 15 pounds heavier than Duke. He's around 315-320.
This post was edited on 11/11/24 at 8:07 am
Posted on 11/11/24 at 12:24 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:He's gonna be lighter than he was at Duke!!!
He has to be bordering right on that 295lb limit.
There's no way he weighs less than 300
Revenge season!!!
Offseason skinny pics!!!
Nope, same Zion as always, not in peak shape or even close to it...oh and the worst start to his career even when he was on the court.
Posted on 11/11/24 at 12:27 pm to shel311
I said he looked out of shape in the preseason, but no one wanted to hear that b/c he was putting up good offensive numbers. If you actually watched the games, you'd notice he was just as lazy as ever, especially defensively.
Posted on 11/11/24 at 12:44 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:Oh trust me, I know.
I said he looked out of shape in the preseason, but no one wanted to hear that b/c he was putting up good offensive numbers. If you actually watched the games, you'd notice he was just as lazy as ever, especially defensively.
That hasn't stopped those from not atoning for their horrific takes that he was in the best shape he's ever been in and not agreeing with that made you a terrible person.
Posted on 11/11/24 at 12:56 pm to shel311
quote:
That hasn't stopped those from not atoning for their horrific takes that he was in the best shape he's ever been in and not agreeing with that made you a terrible person.
wHy ArE yOu So MiSeRaBLe???
Posted on 11/11/24 at 1:34 pm to Broski
quote:Don't forget "pathetic!"
wHy ArE yOu So MiSeRaBLe???
My favorite line in response to me saying maybe we should just let it play out and let Zion prove it on the court was my... "prove it silliness"
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