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re: Miami Blocks Marve Transfer to LSU and Others
Posted on 1/3/09 at 11:17 am to thunderbird1100
Posted on 1/3/09 at 11:17 am to thunderbird1100
Marve transfer here would only hurt. JJ has shown he can do the job, and with 2 qb recruits coming in and hatch we are set for next couple years. Marve just looks like an attitude guy to me.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 12:54 pm to LSUownsSEC
On the contrary, these action seems quite capitalistic. Marve is free to attend any institution he wants (provided he meets their standards)as a student. The restrictions being placed on him are football based only. Miami or any other school for that matter does not have any obligation to him beyond providing for his education at the university. He wasn't kicked off of the team so they are willing to hold up their end. Marve is making the decision not to hold up his end.
If being close to his father is the issue then USF would be a perfect place for him. They are an up and coming program and his father wouldn't have to travel. The fact that they haven't come up in discussion leads me to believe that proximity to home isn't the biggest issue.
Edit: Sorry, I missed that the U banned all in-state schools. I agree that this is extreme particularly considering his family circumstances.
This is a powerful lesson.
If being close to his father is the issue then USF would be a perfect place for him. They are an up and coming program and his father wouldn't have to travel. The fact that they haven't come up in discussion leads me to believe that proximity to home isn't the biggest issue.
Edit: Sorry, I missed that the U banned all in-state schools. I agree that this is extreme particularly considering his family circumstances.
This is a powerful lesson.
This post was edited on 1/3/09 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 1/3/09 at 1:30 pm to DollaChoppa
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wth. how can u ban someone from going to the college they want. thats ridiculous
That's what I said about $aban!
Posted on 1/3/09 at 1:55 pm to TimT
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hes just a kid. let him go where he wants. thats how i feel
Wish you guys were fighting for the qb that Notre Dame practically banned from attending any school they will play in the next 4 years. If it wasn't extreme last year it's not extreme in this case. Just because he is scared of competition doesn't mean he can renege on his commitment and go anywhere he chooses. Welcome to the real world son. There are consequences for your actions.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 2:06 pm to ready4something
If I'm Shannon and marve isn't good enough to play for me then I'd gladly let him play for my opponents. There's more to this.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 2:18 pm to NOSTRODAMUS
There is no reason to think he is coming to LSU other than the fact that Miami has refused to allow his transfer. Kid can still transfer, but can't play right away.
I don't blame Miami for refusing to allow the transfer. You invest all that time and energy into coaching the kid up, you let him play all season, and then he bolts? Unless there was a good reason, I would leave the restrictions in place also.
I don't blame Miami for refusing to allow the transfer. You invest all that time and energy into coaching the kid up, you let him play all season, and then he bolts? Unless there was a good reason, I would leave the restrictions in place also.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 2:20 pm to steadytiger
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Enough with hes just a kid. I remember when I was just a kid, and I made decisions I continue to live with to this day for good or bad. "Kids" should understand when they are in position to make more dough in one year thaan we make in our lifetime (most of us), that these decisions are pretty important and MUST be approached with caution. How fortunate these "Kids are blessed with the talents to make multiple millions. They need to realize their decisions must be made with due diligence. Some of us have had similar decisions, like go to college or stay and make that "easy money" out of high school. It happens to all of us, "Kids or not Kids."
are you saying you agree with shannon?
Posted on 1/3/09 at 2:24 pm to ready4something
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Wish you guys were fighting for the qb that Notre Dame practically banned from attending any school they will play in the next 4 years. If it wasn't extreme last year it's not extreme in this case. Just because he is scared of competition doesn't mean he can renege on his commitment and go anywhere he chooses. Welcome to the real world son. There are consequences for your actions.
what are the consequences for a school that releases a player, like les did RP? should that player be allowed to hold up the scholarship slot he once held, or approve who gets it?
it is crazy for a coach to limit where a player can go. i said the same thing about farve last year. why is a coach so petty as to limit where a player can go AFTER he leaves his program.
maybe some coach could take him, THEN release him to where he wants to go. that would be cool if legal.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 2:25 pm to ouachitatiger
If he has been suspended twice already, then I don't think we should be interested in him anyway.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 3:54 pm to ouachitatiger
Marve's arm and attitude blocked his trandsfer to LSU
Posted on 1/3/09 at 7:16 pm to Tiger in NY
how can you grant a transfer then tell them where they can't go. as long as they follow the rules set forth they sould be able to go where they want.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 7:23 pm to ouachitatiger
The canes still are pissed about Miles' 40-3 beatdown in the Peach Bowl.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 7:29 pm to Froghair
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I believe it is well-established now days that "no-compete" clauses in contracts cannot be enforced if it prevents someone from getting a job that fits his skills. Marve an others should argue this point in court, with the idea a scholarship is akin to a wage (universities always tout the $ value of a scholarship) and all these restrictions prevent him from taking a job of his choice. I predict in the future the restrictions like the ones imposed by Miami here will be found non-enforceable.
Contract law varies by state. Non-compete clauses are enforceable in Louisiana but are strictly construed b/c they are against public policy. I have no idea about florida law.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 7:30 pm to LSUownsSEC
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it seems to that that this kind of action has communistic overtones?
Not quite.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 7:32 pm to Bad Cat
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The canes still are pissed about Miles' 40-3 beatdown in the Peach Bowl.
That's kind of what I thought. Florida, TN, and UF have all beaten Miami in recent years. Well, TN was a while back.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 9:20 pm to biglego
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Contract law varies by state. Non-compete clauses are enforceable in Louisiana but are strictly construed b/c they are against public policy. I have no idea about florida law.
Yep, you are correct. I'm not an attorney but work in HR and activiely worked to enforce such contracts in Florida on more than one occasion - and won every time.
However, since the U isn't blocking him from playing for any institution, I don't think this will apply. Because he has the ability to play for any institution other than the ones specifically mentioned and is likely to get a spot on another team with scholarship, they are not, in effect, preventing him from "earning a living."
I thought this was a very interesting argument, though, and would love to see someone attempt to challenge it in court.
This post was edited on 1/3/09 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 1/3/09 at 9:39 pm to LSUGrrrl
I think he ends up at Auburn.
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